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W3's Amaya Reaches Version 8.0 43

Xusto D. H. Sals writes "The W3C's web browser-cum-editor Amaya has finally reached version 8.0. Changes are detailed here. Out of interest, how many people use this as a HTML editor, if so why, or why not?"
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W3's Amaya Reaches Version 8.0

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  • Simple answer ... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by belbo ( 11799 ) on Wednesday April 23, 2003 @05:09PM (#5793750)
    Out of interest, how many people use this as a HTML editor, if so why, or why not?

    Quoth the changelog:

    Access keys for activating menu entries (Alt + a letter) are now available on Windows versions.[...]
    Amaya now allows to create/change a link without using the mouse. [...]
    Support of attribute align="left" and align="right"

    Amaya is _so_ far behind the curve, it isn't even funny anymore.
    Give me htp [sourceforge.net] and a good text editor and I got you a complete website sooner than you figure out how to handle Amaya's incredibly cumbersome interface.

    With the advent of structured markup from the XML family, graphical HTML editors seem to become superfluous - you put a logical structure into the text and have it presentated by another file, the style sheet. There's no reason why that should require any form of WYSIWYG editing, especially since all the WYSIWYG editors I know suck at handling style sheets, let alone creating them properly. They are handy when prototyping, but after that, a script can do the same job in one tenth of a time.

  • by WWWWolf ( 2428 ) <wwwwolf@iki.fi> on Thursday April 24, 2003 @10:33AM (#5799002) Homepage
    I write in pure HTML - why would anyone do different?

    People seem to think it's easier to do HTML with a graphical toy, even when it, of course, isn't in retrospect - you get a pretty site with, shall we say, challenging HTML code that people will need to modify by hand...

    Amaya tends to generate pretty cool and even standards-compliant code, though it's still possible to do strange things with it.

    Suppose you're (like me) teaching non-techs how to do web pages with Amaya. You can start telling web newbies about page structure, different meanings of different tags, but when they find out the hard font changing options, all hell breaks loose and they never learn how to do proper pages. =( And on top of all this, they insist on using graphical tools because raw HTML is "hard".

    If people call HTML hard, well, I'm these days tempted to tell them back, "Ah, but in that case, just write the content and let someone else to do the HTML page. HTML requires some patience and willing to understand. If you don't have either, it obviously isn't your forte." The problem is, some people might be angered by that reply...

    Anyway, personally, yeah, I think Amaya is nice, but I still like xemacs, optionally with wml+tidy =)

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