New IRC Network For Open Source Projects

Anonymous Coward writes "The folks over at Tech Tower IRC have decided to turn their small IRC network into a place for Open Source projects. They have also changed some policies to allow users on their networks to help shape the network, the big one is holding public meetings to discuss the network. Could this be the next freenode? They are also asking for individuals that wish to found general channels, this means that if you are lucky, you can lead the next #linux."

next freenode?

[gl4ss]

why do you need a next freenode?

why do you need a new irc network? has there really been some open source folks thinking that "oh gosh, i'd like to have an irc channel for this project.. but damn i can't do it on any of the currently online free servers"?

was someone too bored again?

Re:next freenode?

[Kizzle]

It would be nice to have one IRC server I can log into and find a bunch of open source projects in spot free of the usual warez and pr0n garbage.

Re:next freenode?

[avalys]

And what makes you think this new network won't have the same problems as Freenode after a week or so?

Personally, I've never had any troubles with warez and porn on Freenode, so I don't even know what you're complaining about.

Re:next freenode?

[RevAaron]

Is there a lot of warez and porn on Freenode? I've never noticed. Mind you, I only sit in one social and a few project channels (go #squeak !)... Unlike other networks, I've never had problems with spambots coming into channel and posting message about porn sites, and I've never had those random msgs with the same content.

So, in short- why not just use freenode?

Re:next freenode?

[gl4ss]

come over to freenode then.
or a dozen other irc-networks.

freenode also has chanserv and other associated helpers so there's no point in starting a new irc-network for having them.

Re:next freenode?

[Curtman]

why do you need a next freenode?

And since when was #linux a pinnacle of excellence?

Re:next freenode?

[BossMC]

You don't need another Freenode. There is no relevant reason for this new network. Freenode works well, and most of the users are intelligent and helpful.

Re:next freenode?

[dddbliss]

This network was designed to allow the users a say in how it ran and operated, allows for more opinions to be shared without conflict, and also allows the development of software in an environment that is dedicated to seeing Open Source projects succeed.

So whats wrong with Freenode?

[profet]

Is there anything wrong with freenode that requires a second network? Won't this lead to the eventual division of potential useful chatter?

I just don't get it.

Re:So whats wrong with Freenode?

[Leroy_Brown242]

Nope, nothing wrong with FreeNode.

But, geeks like to feel important some times, so they, instead of helping the current system be better, they just make thier own thing. Which is ultimately destructive to the community, because that means there are less quality in the networks and people, usually.

Re:So whats wrong with Freenode?

[cnettel]

By forking networks, they create more room for possibly redundant chatter without anyone noticing.

half there half here

[Knights who say 'INT]

I'd prefer everything to remain in Freenode too.

That said, I snatched up #linux :-D

Re:half there half here

[jdowland]

Can't say I'm jealous, good luck admining something like that :P

What's wrong with freenode?

[IO ERROR]

This seems somehow redundant. What's wrong with freenode that we need another IRC network?

Re:What's wrong with freenode?

[simcop2387]

recursion n,
See recursion, you insensitive clod

before an admin sees

[bersl2]

Quick, someone steal the "T".

Could this be the next freenode?

[Ianoo]

What's wrong with the current freenode?

channels

[Esine]

That said, I snatched up #linux :-D

Oh yeah? Well I have ops on #c++ and #openbsd! beat that!

Re:channels

[rbullo]

Try posting a reply instead of a new thread.

Re:channels

[Steelfish]

lol, Now whyed you gotta go do that :P But well your lucky :D

Re:channels

[superpulpsicle]

Hey man you mind as well claim #windows and call yourself Bi11G@t3$.

Next!

[Richard_at_work]

This has happened before, see the OFTC network. All it does is fragment the community, as I have to be on this network for #openbsd, that network for #mozilla, the other network for #gimp, etc etc etc. I want one network, one signon, and one nick!

So what you're saying is...

[vidnet]

Microsoft Passport!

Sorry, but....

[pomac]

I'm kinda amazed that all opensource projects use cluttered and amazingly annoying ircd's.

Like freenodes dancer:
Server There are 9541 victims and 10397 hiding on 24 servers

But if you do lusers again it states:
Server server load is temporarily too heavy, please try again later?

But ircu based networks has no problems with:
Server There are 41787 users and 74748 invisible on 31 servers

Unreal is to me a insane server to use...

I'm just waiting for a "opensource projects network" to use something sane. But then working on ircclients and servers i guess i'm biased, esp since i prefer Undernets ircd.

Until someone does a OpenSource p2p im system that is totally distributed etc etc etc, and ppl actually use it. Then just let programmers use whatever network they feel like using.

Re:Sorry, but....

[D. Taylor]

The 'server load is too high' stuff on repeated /lusers (amongst other commands) is a configurable option in ircd-hybrid, to prevent people flooding the server with resource intensive commands. I don't beleive /lusers uses many resources, but *shrug*.

dancer is a heavily bastardised version of hybrid that I submitted a small amount of work for before deciding I, uh, disagreed with their (mainly lilo's) policies.

Re:Sorry, but....

[pomac]

Heh, yep the "server load to high" bit seems pretty lame actually, from any point of view.

And thanks for that piece of information i actually didn't know that it was based on hybrid. I only know that it causes problems due to broken 005 replies and stuff like that.

(But as i stated before, i'm a ircu person myself =))

PS. What are youre thoughts about unreal then? =)
DS.

Why another?

[reynaert]

There already is freenode. For those who are annoyed by freenode's begging for money, there's OFTC. Gnome people have GIMPnet. What's the use of yet another network?

Exactly.

[suss]

There's nothing wrong with freenode and even if you would have issues with it, there's always OFTC [oftc.net].

In short, "meh".

IRC Protocol versus SILC, what's wrong with IRC?

[shapr]

In essence, IRC is an old protocol, it needs help.

SILC [silcnet.org] is unicode-only, encrypt-only, allows MIME messages, uses a hybrid topology to be netsplit resistant, etc.

SILC isn't fully p2p as one poster suggested, but it's a lot better than IRC.