Zend Taking PHP In the Wrong Direction?

dvanatta writes "Is Zend taking PHP in the wrong direction? Ian Felton asks 'Why is PHP become more like Java, when the PHP developer community seems to want anything but that to happen? What is Zend thinking?'" From the article: "Data from a Zend survey completed in June 2003 (when PHP5 was still in major development) showed that the characteristics of the PHP community didn't necessarily match up with what was developed in PHP5. For example, with the ability to list three primary programming languages, only 18% of respondents named Java."

Bad writing

[musselm]

Come on..
FTFLOTFA (From the first line of the ...):
"Why is PHP become more like Java..."

Give me a break. When this site links to articles as badly written as this one, it makes lots of people feel bad. Why can't devshed and other sites (including this one) do any damn proofreading or editing?

Thanks!
Andrew

Re:I don't get it

[drdink]

I believe the article is talking about the zoo of new OO features in PHP5. Unless you have or would like to have OO code, you really don't notice it other than some of the PHP internal functions being moved into classes. Take a look at the object oriented parts of the PHP Manual [php.net].

Re:People Hate Java

[jilles]

People who hate Java generally don't understand much of Java. You're an excellent example. You hate Java for the wrong reasons. That's dumb.

There are actually quite a number of valid reasons to dislike Java and to prefer php. You don't list a single one. At least hate it for the right reasons. As to explaining why you are wrong is a waste of my time. Sorry, I'm not in the idiot reducation business.

Re:I don't get it

[snorklewacker]

> Having to wait a couple of seconds everytime you make a change sucks.

Solution: use jikes instead of javac to recompile your JSPs. It's blazing fast. I know resin makes this dead simple, but it should be doable on tomcat. Heck, resin will even automatically recompile your servlets and EJBs, deployment descriptors and all (if you use xdoclet for them). You hardly ever have to manually rebuild. It's almost as nice as using ASP.NET.