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MozCorp Announces Firefox 1.5 Extension Competition 260

vain gloria writes "The Mozilla Corporation has launched a competition to Extend Firefox by developing an innovative new extension for the soon-to-be-released latest version of their popular browser. The competition runs until January 6th and the three big prizes are Foxified Alienware PCs. Keen developers may want to grab a copy of the 1.5 Release Candidate and get a head start. Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter."
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MozCorp Announces Firefox 1.5 Extension Competition

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  • Japan (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:16AM (#13949215)
    Stupid of them to leave out Japan and other parts of Asia ... there's lots of good geeks who could build good extensions there.
  • by Livino ( 928438 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:19AM (#13949234) Homepage
    I though Mozilla and the whole free and open source movement was about, well, openness in the first place... Now they're shutting out 85% of the world! (and possibly a similar proportion of the world's developers if Brazil, India, China, South Africa etc. are taken into account. I'm assuming Russia is being included in Europe)
  • by Fred_A ( 10934 ) <fred@NOspam.fredshome.org> on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:21AM (#13949240) Homepage
    This geographic limitation is very weird and runs opposite to the worldwide nature of open source software.

    Why aren't Africans or Asians or Australians (or whateverians) allowed to enter ? What's wrong with the other north Americans (Mexicans) ?

    Is this a language issue ? Part of the "fight against terror" (sic) or what ?
  • by Celt ( 125318 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:22AM (#13949247) Journal
    Without the 30-40 extentions that I make use of on a daily basis I would have properly have moved to Opera by now, but the extentions make firefox great so I continue to use it :)

    As well as the excellent extentions like adblock, tabbed browser prefs and sessionsaver its also the little extentions like GMail Delete Button, Wellrounded and MediaPlayerConnectivity that make Firefox a great browser.

    Good idea that their running a competition as I'm sure it'll ensure their are even more great extentions in the future, I just hope developers update then as time goes on.
  • Dumb Move. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by donnacha ( 161610 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:27AM (#13949271) Homepage
    Better check your passports first though, as those outside the US, EU and Canada (or in Québec) are ineligible to enter.
    And they wonder why take-up has been lower outside the US? [slashdot.org]

    Dumb, dumb, dumb. Especially when it comes to extensions - my rough recollection is that most of the best extensions seem to be by Europeans.

    They're probably going to claim that they had no choice because it's tricky/expensive to ship electronics outside the States but, c'mon, how hard would it have been to arrange an alternative prize, at least to avoid rubbing the world's nose in it at a time when America isn't exactly the most popular kid in the class. If Mozcorp has a PR, he/she should probably reconsider his/her position.

  • by Shaper_pmp ( 825142 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:29AM (#13949279)
    More likely legal requirements, or restrictions on shipping technology (the first prize) to other countries.

    Remember the furore about banning the sale of PS2s to Iraq because the chips could be used in missile guidance systems?
  • by RollingThunder ( 88952 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:43AM (#13949359)
    Considering that Quebec is NOT in the permitted list, it probably has to do with the legality of awarding a prize. Quebec has wierd laws about that and almost every contest I see in BC has some rider about "not valid in Quebec".

    So, they probably verified it was OK in the US, the EU, and non-Quebec Canada, but either couldn't or didn't verify it was legal elsewhere and thus don't allow entrants from nonvalidated places.

    (Sorry if that makes no sense, I'm just ending a nightshift here)
  • by dmoen ( 88623 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @09:51AM (#13949393) Homepage
    Remember the furore about banning the sale of PS2s to Iraq...

    So MozCorp is worried that those crafty Quebecois will use the first prize to build weapons of mass destruction?

  • by dyoung9090 ( 894137 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @10:48AM (#13949787)
    I love Firefox and everything, but when I upgraded to one of the 1.5 betas (because everyone told me about all the new things that were going to be in it, which were admittedly small stuff like being able to reorganize my tabs) half of my extensions went bye-bye. Some came back when they were fixed, but others... not so much. A little while after the second beta came out I decided to get that too, thinking that I was over the extensions I could no longer use and that enough time had passed so that the ones I used (and surely every other person using Firefox) must have been updated as well. Not the case.

    Needless to say, I went with reckless abandon into RC1 and will probably go to the official version as soon as it's out, just to get there. My hope is that the developers of most of the extensions I used were waiting for a more stable build and so in the future I should just wait until those come out instead of jumping into the newest upgrade for a few random features.

    Now, there's going to be a dozen people telling me "Quit complaining, start programming" but I hope this comes off more as "constructive criticism" than anything else because of the web-browser user base (all 87% percent of the US or whatever number it is), a good 75 have never, can never and will never program (unless it becomes simplified to the point of telling your computer in plain language what you want it to do and it cobbles together something... "I want something to remember my recipes and generates a shopping list and gets approximate prices from the internet" and 30 seconds later a fully functional database comes out.)

    Although the percentage of coders to non-coders may be higher with Firefox, the high priests of Firefox are desperate for a piece of that mainstream market. If I show Firefox and all that I can make it do to a friend who wants it installed, I don't want to tell that friend "now, never, EVER install an update because you'll lose half of the functions you've become accustomed too, at least for a little while but possibly forever" because they'll say screw it and stick with IE.

    I loved Aardvark (it was so handy in cleaning up Mapquest stuff, news articles...) but it's become increasingly broke and in RC1 it's apparently fully dead until I hunt for the website (it didn't play well with the updater) to see if it's got an update. Stop-or-reload... same thing. Grease Monkey? Gone. Try searching for a torrent using the new Firefox. Now, these middle-adapters, the ones you have to prove the value of software to, aren't known for being upgrade happy (think your mom, still running IE 5 how many years after 6.0?) or else they may have tried Firefox earlier, but when they do upgrade, they don't want to switch to a different, competing extension becuase there's is broken, nor do they want to lose functionality they've become used to.

    The extensions are awesome, best part of the browser but I think down the road the breakability of extensions is going to throttle the number of new-users. Think of old Netscape where slowly it became a nerd-only alternative, depsite their protests that it was more secure/more capable/better browser but IE kept winning people over because it (a) kept adapting to enable new features (I can't think of any, but that's because I haven't used Netscape since 2000), and (b) retained most of it's features.

    IMO, people would rather use something that lacks features but has all the ones they're attached to than use something that introduces them to new features, and then takes them away.

    Not every extension is going to be the next big thing... that extension so useful that the browser gods themselves reach down to integrate it into their next version, but if there's a user base at all for it, they're not going to like being told they can't use it with the newest toys because the developer didn't think there was enough of a user base to continue his support. Yeah, it's his or her decision to not update, but the user isn't going to care... they're going to blame Firefox.

    Then again, this whole theory only applies to the semi-casual users who know enough to find and love extensions and not to the people who don't know anything about extensions or will just be using the browser as is.
  • RTFRN! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by geobeck ( 924637 ) on Friday November 04, 2005 @11:02AM (#13949906) Homepage

    That's the whole reason they have pre-release software; so extension writers have a chance to update their code before final release.

    If you want everything to work right away, don't use beta software!

  • by booch ( 4157 ) <slashdot2010@cra ... m ['k.c' in gap]> on Friday November 04, 2005 @02:55PM (#13952047) Homepage
    My opinion is that you're smoking crack. The Web Developer extension is written by a single person [chrispederick.com]. What makes you think that it's unfair that he has had some experience? It doesn't appear that he's getting paid for his work (except the PayPal donation button on his site). He's an amateur too. Maybe we should restrict the Olympics to first-time athletes, to make it "fair".

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