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Rails and Merb Ruby Web Frameworks Merge 80

Posted by kdawson
from the flattened-red-gem dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The Merb and Rails Core Teams today announced a major merger; the two projects will become one, and be released some time in Q2 of 2009 as Rails 3. This is great news for lots of folks who worried about the potential community fracture, as well as great news for all the developers who will now have an all-around better option for programming Ruby. Read more about the details in Yehuda's blog post, or at the Ruby on Rails blog."
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Rails and Merb Ruby Web Frameworks Merge

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  • Rails can only prosper from this (ugh, I hate how I'm phrasing this) 'merger'.
    • by eln (21727) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @06:18PM (#26216863) Homepage

      Rails can only prosper from this (ugh, I hate how I'm phrasing this) 'merger'.

      I agree. They can really leverage synergies and break down some silos with this.

      • Rails can only prosper from this (ugh, I hate how I'm phrasing this) 'merger'.

        I agree. They can really leverage synergies and break down some silos with this.

        Well then I'm excited.

      • by dkf (304284)

        Rails can only prosper from this (ugh, I hate how I'm phrasing this) 'merger'.

        I agree. They can really leverage synergies and break down some silos with this.

        They're not breaking down silos. They're just building a bigger silo.

    • by jadavis (473492)

      Why do you say that? Making an effective release of any platform is no easy task.

      It seems easy with the exponential growth that Rails saw in the past, because you don't have to care about the existing users. Just break everything, whenever you want, there are plenty of new users. You don't care if a library has bugs in it, because users are starting from scratch, so they'll just be happy it does anything at all.

      Now, with adoption growing at some more reasonable pace, they'll need to satisfy existing users.

  • by spinkham (56603) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @06:14PM (#26216805)
    Either today is April 1st.. (Checks calendar). Nope. I guess Rails is no longer a ghetto. (Sorry Zed) The rails and merb teams collaborating on making a good project... It just brings tears to my eyes to see these boys grow up and play nice.
  • by ShadowRangerRIT (1301549) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @06:56PM (#26217275)

    At time of posting we have:

    • rubyonrailssucks
    • rubysucks
    • rubysucksdonkeyballs
    • fuckruby
    • rubyblows

    ...

    Either the taggers got up on the wrong side of bed today, or my general impression of Ruby is horribly wrong.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Every technology has it's haters. Especially when it comes to web. Any post about PHP is bound to have the phpsucks tag. Java, Flash, etc. have their own hate tags too. PERL is pretty much the only one with sufficient amount of fanboys here to avoid any negative comments...

      But in the end tags are never about consensus. They are about the consensus of the loudest people. If such people were smart and knew what they were talking about, democracy would have made the world perfect long ago.

    • by tcopeland (32225)

      > Either the taggers got up on the wrong side of bed today,
      > or my general impression of Ruby is horribly wrong.

      Quite so. For my military reading list [militarypr...glists.com] site, Rails is awesome. Plus Sphinx for searching, of course.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by poulbailey (231304)

      Speaking of which, why won't Slashdot let me turn the tags off?

    • Now we have "willyonwwheels".
  • Really great news (Score:3, Interesting)

    by astrashe (7452) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @08:55PM (#26218365) Journal

    This will give the Merb people a lot more momentum, and their project will have a really big community, a thriving job market, and lots of books written about it.

    And it will give Rails the value of all of the good stuff that Merb brings to the table -- Rails will be more modular and less monolithic, easier to learn, and easier to move forward because people will be able to split off smaller pieces and improve them.

  • Doh. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Hmmm. Merb was awesome because it was a lighter, faster, less bloated Rails. I'm not convinced that merging the two will result in anything other than dragging Merb down to Rails' level.

  • I didn't switch to Merb primarily for technical reasons; I switched to Merb because I got tired of being insulted whenever I asked for help on #rubyonrails (my very first experience there was being told to go back to Perl if I didn't understand Ruby (note, not if I didn't _like_ Ruby, if I didn't understand it), and my last was being told to 'drop the gimme gimme gimme attitude' when complaining about something that wasn't documented -- _AND OFFERING TO PROVIDE A DOCUMENTATION PATCH IF SOMEONE WOULD HELP ME

    • Ruby on Rails has a great community, but the only ones (with few exceptions) hanging out on #rubyonrails are newbies and/or fanbois.

      It was long ago that the pros left the places where newbies also could hang out and ask questions. There are a couple of half-anonymous invite-only communities where hundreds of already semiprofessional Railsers (including core developers of Rails, major sites and plugins) hang out and help each others and life there is great and very friendly and helpful.

      Unfortunately that als

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