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Drizzle Hits General Availability 146

Posted by timothy
from the general-availability-turns-up-face-in-wonder dept.
snydeq writes "MySQL fork Drizzle has been released for general availability, giving companies a viable alternative to Oracle-owned MySQL, InfoWorld reports. 'Organizations that have been seeking a less-expensive alternative to Oracle's brand of MySQL — or a variant devoid of feature bloat — now have an option that Drizzle's creators deem ready to package in Linux distributions.'"
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Drizzle Hits General Availability

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  • Drizzle? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Attila Dimedici (1036002) on Thursday March 17, 2011 @04:46PM (#35522078)
    Really? Drizzle? That was the best they could do for a name of the new project?
  • Please (Score:2, Funny)

    by gad_zuki! (70830)

    Please name open source projects better. "Hey boss, lets build all these sites on top of Drizzle."

    Maybe some high profile OSS guys can help fund or start some kind of OSS naming service.

    • by discord5 (798235)

      Maybe some high profile OSS guys can help fund or start some kind of OSS naming service.

      That's always an option, but you just know that they'll give the organization a terrible name.

    • by Locke2005 (849178)
      You're telling me! I keep telling my managers "We should be using subversion!" They all think I'm some kind of subversive...
      • by SheeEttin (899897)
        Oh, well there's you problem. Tell them they should be using Git!
        Oh, wait...
      • Mercurial is better anyways ... :-P Seriously: if I have to sell my mgmt on "git" or "mercurial" (which don't look all that different to me) which one do you think I'm going to talk about?
        • Just tell them it's "Hg", rather than "Mercurial".

          Better yet, tell them that you're going to use MVC (Mercurial Version Control). If they google that, they'll find out that, whatever the hell it is, everyone says it's a good thing to do.


  • Less expensive? I thought MySql was free? Any MySql admins here? Are there certain features (grid, flashback, partitioning) that aren't available with the free version?
    • by C_Kode (102755)

      You are taking the comment out of context. Of course you can get MySQL free, but sometimes in some cases, you don't run it for free. (and for good reason)

  • Does the Drizzle know that they have named a MySQL fork after him?

  • by wcrowe (94389) on Thursday March 17, 2011 @05:03PM (#35522374)

    I'm just glad they didn't give it some dumb, stilted name like "LibreSQL".

  • by Bill Dimm (463823) on Thursday March 17, 2011 @05:11PM (#35522510) Homepage

    I seem to remember that many years ago, before Sun bought MySQL AB, the license for the library needed to access the database from your own programs was GPL (not LGPL), and MySQL AB claimed you couldn't use it without open-sourcing your code, unless you paid them for a commercial-use license. Has that changed with Drizzle (i.e., have they written a new API so they can choose a different license)? Their license page [drizzle.org] says:

    Drizzle is licensed under both the GPLv2 and BSD license. The core of Drizzle was forked from MySQL and thus is under GPLv2. Derived work from GPLv2 code will stay GPLv2, as the license states...

    which doesn't give any detail about which parts are still GPL and which parts are now BSD.

    • Re:API License? (Score:4, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 17, 2011 @05:17PM (#35522578)

      Hi Bill,
      The main code is GPLv2, the libdrizzle client library is BSD and the docs are CC BY SA 3.0

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I think most of the drivers are now under the BSD style license so that fixes that issue.
      http://wiki.drizzle.org/JDBC

  • I've seen nothing in Drizzle that was so compelling that it's worth going through and recertifying a whole stack of apps. In fact, I've seen nothing compelling in Drizzle at all. "Hey, we ripped out a bunch of features and we're not Oracle!" Great. I'm trying to get real work done over here. The protest march is the next street over.

  • Too bad "OurSQL" is taken.. Maybe "EveryoneSQL"
  • by BitHive (578094) on Thursday March 17, 2011 @05:25PM (#35522684) Homepage

    Fo' drizzle.

  • A large part of the Internet Technology sector thinks your company is poison. I know, I know... you don't care unless they are shareholders dumping their shares en mass.

    • by bartwol (117819)

      So I've spent years building my application on top of MySQL. And MySQL has done its job just fine...before Oracle and since.

      Now comes along a fork, a new database, that solves *what* problem for me?

      I'm looking for an effective DBMS (which I have in MySQL), not a company (or CEO) to love.

      Are *you* paying attention? To *what*?

      • It solves nothing for you right now, until Oracle decides to muck with things and change them around as they see fit, until you feel like the end result is less and less the MySQL you know and love and more the brain child of new management.

        Oracle has been screwing with all sorts of products that Sun managed since the acquisition. This is entirely precautionary. No one is telling you to make the switch. It's just there if you eventually have a need for it.

  • by sltd (1182933)
    So now there will be Linux Apache Drizzle Php servers? Just classy.
  • Wasn't MariaDB [mariadb.org] enough?

    • by c0d3g33k (102699)

      They are not quite the same. Drizzle seems to be striving for minimalism, while MariaDB is trying to follow the pre-Oracle development path. Also, MariaDB has the following albatross around its neck: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Widenius [wikipedia.org]. His post-Oracle "Save MySQL" campaign was all kinds of annoying.

      • by SQL Error (16383)

        Albatross shmalbatross. I'm using MariaDB for a 6TB production system and it works flawlessly.

        • >I'm using MariaDB for a 6TB production system and it works flawlessly.

          Good to hear that, one heard rumors of MySQL eating data years back, though you can't be sure if that was due to operator error, but the old MySQL attitude of "who needs atomicity" probably didn't help.

          Would you care to share any pointers? I'm sure you're using a 64-bit OS. RHEL or Ubuntu/Debian?

          And what about replication? For high availability/scaling or backups? Does mysqldump give you a consistent dump? (I.e, if the dump takes 15 m

  • A "drizzle" is a half-assed rain. Is Drizzle a database for those aren't really sure they want one?

  • I for one do not even try to explain to average people what open source software is, I cant get one sentence in before someone starts cracking jokes

    Drizzle
    LAME
    GIMP
    GNOME
    etc ... really? you want this to be the year of the * desktop? fine make it so I dont have to spend time explaining what lame drizzle is and how it is different from a gimp gnome!

    • I have been wondering this for a long time. A lot of open source software names make no sense and even seem to downright downplay their usefulness before you even see them.

      The biggest example is GIMP. What is the first thing you think of when you see the word GIMP? Limp. Cripple... You're telling the general public that the software is weak and quite possibly substandard. It might not be true, but first impressions mean a lot, and these silly names don't instill a lot of confidence.

      Drizzle is a strange name

  • by Bucc5062 (856482) <bucc5062@gmaiMONETl.com minus painter> on Thursday March 17, 2011 @08:21PM (#35524570)

    What a waste of /. commenting. I look through the top 50 and the obsession with the fucking name is amazing. How about the fact they don't support stored procedures or triggers.

    Fundamentally, stored procedures usually are not the correct architectural decision for applications that need to scale.

    WTF? Stored Procs are the basis for enterprise development with a DB backend. It is the whole point of scalability. Hard coding commands is horrible for anything but small apps. I am also not a fan of Oracle, but until a better alternative is presented I will stick with MySql because it is free, and can scale much better then these guys. Sorry Drizzle, its too muddy for my tastes.

  • giving companies a viable alternative to Oracle-owned MySQL

    How about a real alternative, like PostgreSQL?

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