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Oracle Open World: Ellison Preaches Cloud Religion 49

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Oracle CEO Larry Ellison used his opening keynote at Oracle Open World (OOW) to unveil several initiatives to accelerate the cloud, including its own private cloud, Infrastructure-as-a-Service, and its latest database version—which, coincidentally, can be stored in memory within Oracle's latest Exadata database machines. Ellison also paid tribute to Oracle hardware partner Fujitsu, which had earlier announced 'Project Athena': a server designed with a UltraSPARC chip that (he claimed) can run the Oracle database 'faster than any microprocessor on the planet.' Ellison opened OpenWorld with four key announcements: that Oracle is now offering infrastructure as a service; that it will complement the IaaS offering by allowing customers to run that same infrastructure behind their corporate firewall as a private cloud; the launch of Oracle database 12C (where the 'c' stands for 'cloud'); and, finally, the new Exadata servers, which barely use disk drives at all in-favor of in-memory storage, with flash memory as a fallback."
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Oracle Open World: Ellison Preaches Cloud Religion

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  • by Medievalist (16032) on Monday October 01, 2012 @11:10AM (#41514125)

    If I owned Java and mySQL I'd be preaching the gospel of "The Cloud" too.

    • The cloud is the sliver lining for Oracle.

      The trends were towards going to smaller PC hardware, with systems like Microsoft SQL and MySQL that are designed for the smaller Database. There is less of a demmand towards the ultra big and heavy gear anymore. You are not going to want to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for an oracle license, for a database that has under a billion records in it. And your down time isn't going to cost you enough to make up for the expense.

      However with Cloud systems, it brin

      • by SDrag0n (532175)
        Microsoft SQL Server definitely isn't designed for smaller databases... maybe you're thinking of Access?
        • Microsoft SQL Server definitely isn't designed

          Agreed.

        • I am talking about the billions or records database.

          I don't bring up access, because if you use access for a production system you are either suck in the early 1990's or an idiot.

          Microsoft SQL server can work for huge data sets... However it isn't it optimal design range.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by slashmydots (2189826)
      I think internally though they refer to it as a ball grabber product line since once part of your data and operations are on the cloud, they'd got you by the balls, lol. I know when I look for a software suite, complete lack of control over parts of it that are offsite, slow performance, need for an ungodly expensive fast internet connection, and zero failover options are all big perks.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Some of the tech sounds good, but the fact that Oracle wants you to use it is reason enough to be wary.

    * captcha: troubles

  • C'mon Fujitsu, isn't the Hellenic pantheon large enough for you to leave Project Athena in peace?

  • All I can think about is seeing Larry Ellison have a debilitating stroke as Oracle HQ comes down with a zombie plague and burns to the ground.

    Fuck Oracle.

    • You must realy hate Time Sharing err um, managed hosted err umm SaaS err umm Could yea that it, you must really hate Cloud computing. That is the buzward that makes it evil.

  • "The cloud" being pushed by a tech company's leader might have been news a decade ago. Today in 2012 it just seems a little lame.
    Although of course what is behind the headline is more interesting. Interesting that Fujitsu is involved. Maybe the Japanese "Fifth Generation Computer" vision is finally coming together? Like 30 years late.

    You don't see many headlines about "Fifth Generation Computing" anymore although they were all the rage in

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Because Christianity is far too much mainstream.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    nice data you have in our cloud, shame if something was to happen to it

  • I recently learned that ORACLE is an Acryonym. It stands for One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    never looked back. are they still in business?
  • FTA: “We own it, we manage it, we upgrade it—you pay a monthly fee for what you use,” Ellison said.

    Gee, Larry, by "it" are you referring to your cloud platform, or to my data?

    I've heard of paying a 'fee' for the return of a hostage, but asking people to voluntarily hand over both the hostage AND the ransom money up front? You've got some big balls there Mr. E!

  • by afidel (530433) on Monday October 01, 2012 @12:12PM (#41515135)

    If he really wants to enable "the cloud" he would immediately change the licensing doc so that the vCPU boundary is recognized as a hard partitioning scheme thus enabling almost every Oracle workload that is today tied to hardware to run in a VM. Oracle's stupid licensing policy wrt VM's has been the one thing keeping any significant percentage of my environment on hardware (we're ~80% virtualized today and will be 90+% by the end of the year but Oracle licensing will keep that from reaching 99% like we would like).

    • It's almost as though he would really prefer to enable his cloud, or maybe your cloud on his hardware...

      • by afidel (530433)

        After running into all sorts of bugs with Oracle VM there's no way in hell I would run any production workload on it, let alone core ones. The biggest one we ran into was if you pressed the restart host icon and then clicked cancel on the warning dialog you would put the host into a limbo state and the only solution was to reinstall the management machine from scratch!

        • +1 parent

          Yeah, you know they're using Oracle VM. There's no polish for that turd. I wouldn't put anything there that I care about, unless I want to loose my job.

        • by jsolan (1014825)
          We've been using Oracle VM in production for years with very few issues. Their management software is total garbage, but it's still xen underneath which has been very solid for us. We've used xen for our virtualization of non-production servers well before Oracle came out with their product, so I use the command line to manage vm's more than that horrible web app. When Oracle offered support their database running on what amounts to xen with Oracle branding, we moved over and haven't looked back.
  • Larry Ellison is scum. He has an ego to feed. His first Oracle database was a complete shit and he was also in the business of selling his customers vaporware, products that did not exist but might exist in sometime in the future. Now look at the shit his playing with the Java run-time platform(or api's) suing anybody who is using it or something similar. No wonder c and c++ still going to be popular in the future.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Is Oracle a religion or a cult of some sort, where all members surrender all of their worldly possessions in exchange for a blessing from the Father RDBMS, the Sun Licenses, and the Holy Brand Name?

    Though I can sorta understand SQL Server, which is a part of that whole Microsoft catholicism, with its beautiful cathedrals that some people still admire...

    Oracle might make sense for "the five richest kings in Europe", but for the rest of us there's PostgreSQL.

    --libman

  • > 'faster than any microprocessor on the planet.'
    Okay, Larry, one of us clearly misunderstands cloud (and possibly just about all) computing. Don't we want a computer that runs it cheaper, not faster?

  • by flydpnkrtn (114575) on Monday October 01, 2012 @03:06PM (#41517507)

    Anybody remember this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOEFXaWHppE [youtube.com]

    Guess he's changed his tune...

    • by Raenex (947668)

      He didn't change his tune at all. There's actually another video [youtube.com] where he bashes on "cloud" computing, but he says, "We'll make cloud computing announcements. Because if orange is the new pink, we'll make orange blouses. I mean, I'm not going to fight this thing."

      His main complaint is that "cloud" computing is just the latest fad term for existing technology.

  • The cloud is such a nice thing to talk about. It will take care of everything, except the main problem the ISP are bringing to the table.

    Download limits.

    I recently got my internet shut off because I downloaded over 250gb. You'd think 250gb is enough, but it isn't. Sure, it's enough if I didn't do anything, but being disabled and using Internet most the day.

    Here's the best example i know of. You use an online backup, and you then lose a harddrive. lets just say, you lost a 1TB harddrive that you had

  • Larry? Oh, thought maybe Harlan had developed something.
  • Having just read Charles Stross' "Rule 34" ... this sounds ominous. (unless it's the best thing to ever happen to humanity - I couldn't tell, by the end).

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