Oracle Integrates Jabber Into Oracle9i Application

HPAVC writes: "Jabber today announced that Oracle has selected the Jabber as one of the primary interfaces for Oracle9i Application Server, enabling Jabber to deliver an industry-leading wireless Instant Messaging/IM system for Oracle App Server. The drivers will be downloadable via the Oracle Technology Network. Seems like its coming around well like previously mentioned here."

Copycats

[Anonymous Coward]

Oracle's doing it because IBM has Sametime [lotus.com], which integrates with everything else like, oh, WebSphere [ibm.com], and um, Lotus Domino [lotus.com], and um, QuickPlace [lotus.com].

Just because Jabber is open source doesn't mean that it makes Oracle a better product.

Slight Correction

[scotpurl]

Sametime makes use of Java, Javascript, HTML and LDAP, which means it integrates with far more than just IBM/Lotus products. It also links with wireless devices using Sametime Everyplace, and it's part of IBM's e-learning Mindspan suite.

The beta toolkit is available at http://www.lotus.com/beta [lotus.com], which includes the COM toolkit (that's new), the links toolkit, and the Community Server tookit, which is analogous to what Oracle did, if I read Jabber's press release correctly.

Re:Copycats

[hpavc]

They are incorporating Jabber into their application server not making it into one.

the point being?

[abdulla]

what is oracle really trying to achieve with this? i mean how does it help business?

Web Pages, Mostly

[scotpurl]

Think of a chatroom hooked to a web page. If you're on the web page, then some Java(tm) applet automatically sends you to the right channel on the right IRC server, then you can chat with a support person about that, or with other people using that same web application. The user doesn't have to load a seperate client in a seperate window, and then know what command syntax to send. Makes it more usable.

Think more of merging IM with email. You open your email, and the From line indicates if the sender is online, or away. Click their name, and instant chat. Lotus has done it with Sametime, and it makes sense in some situations.

Re:the point being?

[rsatter]

It's called being fully buzz word compliant. I don't expect most business to find IM type services of particular use. By that I mean write applications that use IM. If they do need messaging then they use messaging software like Tibco or MQSeries which provide more robust services need for that kind of mission critical environment. If it is not mission critical then sticking it into a database works quite well. After all us corporate types love to fell up the database with useless I mean useful information.

Re:the point being?

[hpavc]

Makes sense ... its not like you can adopt IRC, Y!, AOL/ICQ or MSN as your messaging platform.

Like the article [jabber.com] says ... "Jabber is one of the first companies to integrate wireless Instant Messaging using the robust, open APIs (Application Programming Interface) of Oracle9i Application Server, providing a solution for wireless carriers to integrate the IM application into their mobile enterprise portals and deliver messaging content to wireless devices. Jabber messages are XML fragments routed through the Jabber server to Oracle9i Application Server. Because the messages are already XML-based, Oracle9i Application Server can simply deliver them in the markup language of the intended recipient's mobile device. "