TheKompany: tkcOggRipper: Easy-to-use Ogg Vorbis C

GonzoJohn writes "Looks like TheKompany has released an ogg rippoer for CDs: "tkcOggRipper is a freely available (but not GPL) program for easily and conveniently ripping CDs into the Ogg Vorbis format. If you are not familiar with Ogg Vorbis, it is available from Xiph (www.xiph.org). It compresses smaller and creates higher fidelity files than MP3. Ogg Vorbis also doesn't have any license time bombs or restrictions associated with it as MP3 does. You can look here to see what we mean. MP3 royalties will cost you either directly as a producer or indirectly as a consumer. One problem with Ogg Vorbis has been a lack of easy to use tools for ripping CDs into the Ogg Vorbis format -- they were confusing or command line based. This led us to write tkcOggRipper, which couldn't be more easy to use. Pop in a CD, pick an ouput directory and select a "Quality" setting, and go. tkcOggRipper is currently available for Linux and Windows, and we hope to release a version for Mac OS X soon."

Errm...

[Clue4All]

I dunno, why not use one of the many existing tools like Grip [nostatic.org] (my favorite) that will let you plug in any CD ripper or encoder out there (Ogg has been supported forever)? If you search Freshmeat you'll find a lot of them, most of which are open source in some fashion.

Re:Errm...

[ruineraz]

I would have to agree, I've found GRIP to be a great program. Simply pop in a cd, and watch tv/play ps2/download pr0n/compile something until it pops out. rinse. repeat.

i ripped my 300 cd collection in like 2 weeks just in my spare time. I just put the cd stand next to the computer, and put in a new cd whenever i noticed it was done. I've been really satisfied with the results.

Um, get a grip.

[ichimunki]

One problem with Ogg Vorbis has been a lack of easy to use tools for ripping CDs into the Ogg Vorbis format

Yeah, because GRIP was such a pain in the butt to use.

Re:Um, get a grip.

[soyle]

Actually, I was quite surprised when I started grip on a RedHat-7.2 installation (with ximian gnome) and it defaulted to ogg'ing audio cds. I guess lame doesn't come standard with RedHat?

On a side note, I'll redo all my audiocds the second my mp3player [ http://shor.ter.dk/401090995 ]supports ogg, but not until then.

Re:Um, get a grip.

[ichimunki]

Actually there was a recent story (in the last month?) here on Slashdot about how the patent owners for mp3 were going to start charging all kinds of royalties, even on the decoders... but note that there is a fee for distributing an mp3 encoder... so the default to Ogg Vorbis isn't that surprising once you get over your initial surprise. ;)

good.. but you can use xmms to

[FuraxCerebro]

Xmms have a plugin that let you burn your cd to ogg format. The good thing with that is that plugin connect to CDDB to retrieve the name of the songs. The only thing you have to do is change the output pluging in the option to ogg, select a default folder and click on the play button ! Really simple and work very well Here are the link... XMMS [sourceforge.net]
----- Sorry for the bad english.. try to learn

Re:good.. but you can use xmms to

[FuraxCerebro]

I should say that a plugin for mp3 is available to. Both work well, follows the same link. And i said that the plugin use CDDB, but it's not true, the plugin use a free version a CDDB.
---- MyXmmsPlugs is a collection of XMMS plugins which includes: out_lame: an output plugin which writes mp3s using libmp3lame avi4xmms: let's you play avi, asf and wma using the avifile lib and og(g)re: a plugin which writes ogg vorbis files. ----
Enjoy !

audiocd:/

[spencerogden]

I love using KDE's audiocd:/ io-slave to rip MP3 or OGG. Just type 'audiocd:/' into konq and drag the tracks to a directory, instant ripping.

Techinically...

[Apreche]

mp3 is not free and ogg is. However, mp3 doesn't cost me anything. I use winamp and cdex. That's really all i need to fit all my mp3 needs, encoding, decoding, playing. All for free. So even though it's not technically free I don't care.
Also from an audio quality standpoint ogg does have higher quality audio at lower bitrates. Which allows you to save hard drive space and retain audio quality. But you know what? I don't care about hard drive space. I've got a 40 gigabyte drive I fill up with videos and mp3s. If I need something to be high quality I'll encode it with 128-320 VBR0 quality = best. Even better I'll just make a 320kbps mp3.

And for you crazy audiophiles. I can tell the difference between a 128kbps mp3 and a CD. It's very apparent that a lot of sound is missing. But my ears are good, and a 320kbps mp3 might as well be a CD. If you can tell the difference between the highest quality mp3 and the higest quality ogg, you deserve a medal, because you have better ears than any other human being on earth.

So unless you are a dog, bird, or superman with super hearing. Who cares if you use ogg or mp3? It all depends on whether your disk space/quality preference. I personally couldn't care less. A high bitrate mp3 is small enough. At least it's smaller than a 40MB wav.

So stop the ogg/mp3 wars. It's personal preference, give it up.

grip

[Peartree]

dude grip is the coolest http://www.nostatic.org/grip/ [nostatic.org]

why is this story posted?

[charstar]

Uhm, shouldn't this be a freshmeat story?

What!?!?!?

[The Whinger]

Since when is a GUI frontend "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters"?

I have ... urrrm ... written a front end for "grep" can I get a story posted aswell?

mirrors?

[dfreed]

Has anyone got a mirror up and running yet?

If not send me the file and I will be willing to mirror it (up to the bandwith cap on my ftp account).

Too bad it segfaults

[GRW]

I tried to run it on Mandrake 9.0 RC3, but it segfaults after doing the first track.

a friendly bash GUI.

[Hawke]

function rip ()
{
local width div last;
if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then
echo "usage: rip file-name-prefix";
echo "ex: rip var-Devils_Blues-";
return 1;
fi;
last=$(cdparanoia -Q 2>&1 | grep -B1 TOTAL | head -1 | sed 's/^ *\([0-9][0-9]*\).*$/\1/');
width=1;
div=$last;
while [[ $div -ge 10 ]]; do
width=$((width+1));
div=$(( $div / 10 ));
done;
echo "Last: $last, width: $width";
for i in $(seq -f "%0$width.0f" 1 $last);
do
cdparanoia -q -r -- $i - | oggenc -Q -q5 --raw --output=$1$i.ogg -;
done;
eject /dev/cdrom
}

Then "rip Band-Album-" No pretty pictures, but awfully easy.

Mirrors ! Mirros ! Mirrors !

[Why Should I]

Please people some body mirror that file.

I'm at work (on windows machine) and want to try out the windows version noq.

Re:Mirrors ! Mirros ! Mirrors !

[orthogonal]

Try CDex. cd-paranoia back-end, bunch of encoders, writes to any sort of file structure and file name you'd like (e.g. my preference, Genre/Artist/Album/Songnumber- SongName -- Album - Artist), does local and remote cddbs.

abcde

[skware]

oooh those really hard command line commands are really really hard.

If you have abcde installed (on debian at least) it defaults to using ogg as the media type. The command to run it is not quite as simple as abc, but is exactly 'abcde'. just change to the dir that you want the rip to end up in and run one command and it cddb's, rips, encodes, tags and cleans up after itself.

I'm all for making things easier for the user, but we should be looking at things that are really hard to do on the command line, or things that have awful command options.

CDEX anyone?

[Domini]

CDEX [sourceforge.net] is possibly the best CD ripping program out there, and certainly one of the more popular!

It has excelent support for ogg and mp3 files!

Yes, yes... it's for win32. A platform is a platform is a platform. Anyone care to port it to Linux? (It's already GPL)

What we *really* need...

[Wolfger]

Is a tool to let us burn an audio CD from ogg files. I haven't seen that anywhere yet. Actually, I'd prefer a hardware solution; a CD player that will play an ogg-format music disc.

Looks Nice, but Firewall Makes It Useless

[Shadowhawk]

It doesn't have settings to use a proxy when connecting to FreeDB. Useless for me. Useless for anyone who rips music at work behind a proxy (mine requires authentication, as well).

Ogg would be great if portables supported it...

[aquarian]

Ogg is great. I like it. But what good is it to most people if they can't play it on their portable, car, or home audio system?

I understand this is because the codec requires a math coprocessor, which none of these things have, or ever will.

Re:Ogg would be great if portables supported it...

[RAMMS+EIN]

``I understand this is because the codec requires a math coprocessor, which none of these things have, or ever will.''
That _was_ a reason, until xiph released their floating point-less (no pun intended) encoder.

Appraisal: Not so good.

[Why Should I]

I finally managed to download it last night.

Installed it on two Win2k machines at work....

Couldn't get either to connect to freedb.

It hung on one machine completely.

On the other I managed to rip a cd, and every song had an extra second of time on it and a noticable ticking artifact in the music every half second or so all the way through the song.

Re:Ogg question.

[PinkFreud]

Yes, Ogg supports variable bitrate. Take a look at this question in the Ogg Vorbis FAQ [vorbis.com] for more information.

I hate thekompany...

[norweigiantroll]

I don't under stand why they aren't releasing the source. From the link:

"We aren't trying to get anything out of giving this application away other than try to get more people using Ogg Vorbis."

Also from their site:

"We at TheKompany.com are proud to fully support and participate in the open source movement. We hope you will join us in actively helping to make open source work and make Linux continue on its rise to being the premiere operating system for any computer and any user."

Then why not release the source so the community can and improve use this? If you don't like freedom go back to MP3 and their patents, Krummy Kompany.