East vs. West: Culture and Distributed Development 486
CowboyRobot writes "ACM's Queue has an article entitled, Culture Surprises in Remote Software Development Teams
that reviews differences in cultures and explores the impact they have on distributed software development teams. From the article: "In Western societies, decisions are made on the basis of input from those involved. In cultures with greater hierarchies, group members assume an authority will decide and they are only to enact the decision." Some stereotypes and some common sense, but I recognized myself in the descriptions of the 'typical American'."
Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Insightful)
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Has Europe moved into another ideological sphere that separates them from the rest of the world, and if so what is it?
Yes. Europe is 'Old West', and therefore considered irrelevant by some. America, on the other hand, is 'Nouveau West', which many Old Westerners consider rather crass, and look down their noses at.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:5, Funny)
and i can say that the single biggest barrier to communication is... the accents. imagine a conference call with ali g. and boss hogg. that's what my day is like...
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2)
Wait 'til you have a conversation w/Greenock.
Zounds.
Americans and Britons, two peoples separated by a common tongue.
John.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2)
Yeah, and it gets worse when there's line noise on the conference bridge, and hte remote site drops off every 2 minutes.
I talk to Mumbai daily....This is my hell.
wbs.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Funny)
Heaven is a place where:
-- The lovers are Italian
-- The cooks are French
-- The mechanics are German
-- The police are English
-- The government is run by the Swiss
Hell is a place where:
-- The lovers are Swiss
-- The cooks are English
-- The mechanics are French
-- The police are German
-- The government is run
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Funny)
Heaven is a place where:
-- The lovers are Italian
-- The cooks are French
-- The mechanics are German
-- The police are English
-- The government is run by the Swiss
-- The tourists are American.
Hell is a place where:
-- The lovers are Swiss
-- The cooks are English
-- The mechanics are French
-- The police are German
-- The government is run by the Italians
-- The tourists are American.
Quit Your Crying (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Quit Your Crying (Score:5, Insightful)
For all the smack that gets talked about Americans, we're actually surprisingly diverse and worldly. Name me a country in the world that has a population as diverse as ours. Show me another place that has such a wide variety of culture. Honestly, if it can be pointed out that somewhere else in the world there is a place where more cultures co-exist than the United States, I will jump on that bandwagon right away. But, I don't think that place exists.
Most places in the United States have people from all around the world. The area I live in has huge hispanic, Russian, asian, black, Indian, and white populations (probably the only group missing is Eskimo, but we do have a lot of American Indian). You see signs in a zillion different languages- and believe it or not, there are few problems.
I lived in Europe for 4 years, been to Asia, the Middle East, and Latin America. Each one of those places is fairly singular in their culture. Each culture has some really amazing things to offer- but surprisingly, it seems like they want to give, but not take. I saw little of Asian culture in Latin America. Europe does not have a lot of Middle Eastern influence- other than the Turkish slums.
While travelling around the world, it seems that I see a lot of europeans who are trying to suck in some culture. Yes, it is great that you went to India. Yes, you saw some good things. Yes, it is sad that a lot of Americans prefer to vacation at Disney World. But...when I want to absorb Indian culture, I can go talk to my neighbors. When I feel the hankering for a little bit of Korea, I just go a few more houses over. And during Black History Month, I don't have far to travel. You get to feel smug about dipping your toe into these cultures during an 'adventure' while I get to see the daily lives of people from all around the world.
And somehow Americans are seen as the ones who are not 'worldly'. We are the ones who are seen as 'insulated'.
While the rest of the world holds onto their culture, we have been absorbing all of them. We have exported some crap (McDonalds, Baywatch, Jerry Lewis) but our culture is really an amalgamation of what the rest of the world has brought here.
Any Slashdotter who lives outside of the US, and would like to come for a visit- I would like to offer up my home as a place for you to stay while visiting. I can show you around, and hopefully you can see that there is more to this place than Dairy Queen and Wal*Mart. Really- this is an open offer. (I live in California if you are interested) (And for a 'freak check' I'm 35, and married. Don't live in my parents house, and don't have foil on my windows. I bathe regularly.)
Re:Quit Your Crying (Score:4, Informative)
Canada
Re:Quit Your Crying (Score:3, Interesting)
I found this:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.htm l
But unfortunately it does not break out the countries in the same manner. The U.S. just gets 'white'. Also, Canada gets a huge 'mixed' group, while the U.S. doesn't get that. I would imagine that it is huge- thanks to Thomas Jefferson, and Strom Thurmond.
I do think though that if you look at those numbers objectively, the lower numbers of black, and hispanic populations in Canada would swing the pendulum in
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Re:Europe: more than one place (Score:3, Interesting)
But even so, that "diversity" is trivial in some respects compared to what I see in the US. When I'm in Europe, some friend will always point out in amazement at cafe how diverse our fellow diners are. "Loo
Europe has moved, or at least... (Score:2, Funny)
Stop chatting and get on with it ! (Score:2)
Surely this is because the Europeans have had lunch, and are winding down for the day
Most of the article presents interesting concepts, but really.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:4, Informative)
I must say that the article does not surprise me, as many of the things they mention I have observed myself (including the French love for object-orientation).
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes.
and if so what is it?
Scientists are still trying to determine that.
But fear not. NASA will be landing a rover ouside of Toulouse this fall.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2)
I'm playing Devil's advocate to an extent, but when did the term "Western" get reassigned to cover North America (but not necessarily Central or South America), Europe (including large chunks of Europe East of Greenwich) and some
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2)
Who the heck is your 'our'? You're not in the USA, since our (I *am* in the USA) largest trading partner is Canada.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2)
I guess $10 billion isn't very much money anymore...the US isn't required to give _anything_ to anyone...$10 billion can feed alot of faces!
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess $10 billion isn't very much money anymore...the US isn't required to give _anything_ to anyone...$10 billion can feed alot of faces!
My point was to refute the parent post, by pointing out that as a fraction of its GDP the US spends less on foreign aid than almost any other developed nation. Ironic that one of the most "Christian" of western societies is also one of the least charitable.
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With very few exceptions for temporary climate problems, the rest of the world could take care of itself if not for the currupt dictatorial regimes who won't allow open markets.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Insightful)
*ONLY* $10 billion? The rest of the planet should get a paying job and chip in.
As a fraction of its GDP, the US gives less in foreign aid than almost any other developed nation. And $10 billion really doesn't go that far. Consider this: World Bank figures indicate that over 1100.2 million people were living in dire poverty (on less than $1.08 per day) in the year 2000. To raise their lot to one of moderate poverty ($2 per day) would require c. $1 billion dollars per day. So, the $10 billion which the US
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:3, Informative)
According to NCSA's own page [uiuc.edu], Mosaic started development in June of 1993. The first webserver, info.cern.ch, went online [w3.org] in 1991.
Re:Where Does Europe Fit In This? (Score:2, Funny)
No, they want to leave the house as soon as possible. We don't need to be babied by our mommies.
2) is seen as "ass kissing" by some.
It is ass kissing. You're there to earn money, not kiss ass.
3) have a very difficult time with "personal space" issues
Get the fuck away from me! I'm feeling clausterphobic.
4) German supervisor spent his after-hours time at the pool WITHOUT A SHIRT!
Yeah because he was probably a bi
Which East? Which West? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Which East? Which West? (Score:4, Funny)
When I first started reading the article, I figured they were talking about New York versus California.
Never a truer word spoken about cultural differences.
Re:Which East? Which West? (Score:5, Informative)
When bell atlantic combined with GTE to become verizon, the powerrs-that-be decided to make bell atlantic the "management" and replaced all the west coast GTE exec positions with BA people. The stodgy east coast guys were infuriated by the laid-back california work style, so they installed GPS transponders on all trucks and instituted random monitoring. Now if you stop to take a crap, they'll page you and demand to know what you're doing at a [gas station/restaurant/whatever] for more than a couple minutes. It's insane.
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Re:Which East? Which West? (Score:3, Insightful)
Once again, leaving out my native Chicago and the rest of the midwest. *sigh* We don't get no respect. There's more than cornfields between the Hudson and Vegas, folks!
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A Nice Way of Saying (Score:2, Interesting)
I'd imagine that some east-Asian Slashdotters might take issue with this.
Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd imagine you'd take offense at this, even though it fits your post to a tee.
Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:5, Interesting)
It extends far beyond IT. I recall an article on culture clashes in some other business. The big boss (from Japan) felt disrespected when his American subordinates questioned his orders; the Americans felt disrespected that the boss wasn't listening to their concerns. It can be counterproductive and even dangerous to assume that "everybody who is decent does everything the same way I was taught." And the conflicts tend to come in areas which we are least likely to consider as questionable.
Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a problem in software design in general. In my years of debating my view of the non-merits of OOP, I realize that people tend to assume that others think (process information) the same way they themselves do. When others don't "get" how one thinks about something, one tends to assume the other person is ignorant, misguided, or not as smart. Software design is more related to psychology than to math (assuming machine performance is not the primary cost factor). There is no standard method of communicating "head models" to one another, so it often ends up in arguments and paradigm battles where everyone involved is confused and bewildered by their inability to convey their viewpoint.
It is far easier to describe what you want software to do than how to best organize it for grokkability and long-term maintenance.
Decisions (Score:5, Insightful)
In my experience there are two ways.
Western (Canada/US), get an idea, get some information, quicikly make a decision. Hopefully if it is wrong, someone points out the mistake before it gets too big.
Eastern (Japan), get a lot of information, make a good well documented decision. Pointing out mistakes means you think that their work in making the decision is wrong, likely you haven't done the same investigation.
When everyone makes off the cuff decisions, there is value to second guessing.
When someone takes a lot of time and energy to make the right decision, it is insulting to be constantly second guessed.
Re:Decisions (Score:3, Insightful)
The things did work properly after I'd put the idiots straight, but I wasn't a popular man among the non-technical management.
My point is that you can have a bunch of idiots researching a project i
Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:2)
I think its an issue of "respect". Not to say you dont' have any, but the extent that you are willing to give it.
Work is just work, but "respect" means more in that part of life in Eastern cultures.
I respect your decisions because of your title, your location in the heirarchy. Its not a point of "right or wrong decisions", its about "respect"
>If enough people are willing to question this, mistakes can be avoided or corrected.
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Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:4, Interesting)
If you read the article thouroughly you will notice that it talks mainly about how different cultures see each other...
People from the East will see Americans as rude while the Americans themself find it normall to argue with an superiour.
On the other side the Americans will see the Easteners as sheepish for not arguing in public. It says nothing about wheter the discussion actually takes place, just about were and with whom (private or whole world).
Jeroen
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I think the point of the article is that in Eastern work-groups , individuals who are not decision makers think that it's not their place to think for themself, in the context of the group. However, when those individuals get promoted, they do what the position requires of them, namely thinking and making decisions.
Have you ever sat in on a western business meeting? It's remarkably similar...
Re:A Nice Way of Saying (Score:2)
No it's not. I'm a "Western" worker, and although I don't know too much about Eastern working cultures, I have realised the similarities are there in some cases. They are arrived at by different means though.
As you said, people in the East who are not decision makers think that it's not there place to think for themselves and speak up when they hear something not quite right to them. People in the West, from my perspectiv
No it isn't... (Score:5, Insightful)
This didn't say they cannot think for themselves, rather that they defer to authority, and in many situations, that's a good thing. Conversely it seems to suggest that Americans don't have much appreciation for structure, heirarchy and procedure, and that might explain why some software is as flaky as it is even if it is innovative.
This is not news (Score:5, Insightful)
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(Interesting: in the U.S. it's wrong to make things that are identical to other things, but okay to make things that are new and different; in Europe it's just the opposite. Hmmm.)
Re:This is not news (Score:2, Informative)
Opposition to embryonic research on the other had is generally tied to moral and religious arguments. It's like comparing apples to o
Clone wars (Score:3, Insightful)
The West has a cultural memory of WWII. Part of this legacy is the idea of Eugenics, championed by Those Guys Who Lost. They did some of the original work on cloning, and s
What about India? (Score:2)
agreed... (Score:3, Insightful)
Agreed. This is consistent the projection that not-so mind/cognative-intensive software work will continue to go overseas while the R&D/high-cognative software related work stays here.
I personally don't feel much pity for the M$ visual basic ppl (ie, mega-corp software cogs) who whine about their job going overseas (let alone the gov't interfereing legistation to support that ideal).
Re:agreed... (Score:2, Interesting)
While that may be partly true, it affects *everyone* in IT just about because everyone tries to get into "high-leve
The East has some good ways.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Building relationships is a strong thing. Time is money but with a good repor you can get a lot more done easily. This is a time and money saver too. Just not as easily trackable of one. And not in the short term but over the long haul of a project. It especially great if the project is going to last severa years.
Re:The East has some good ways.... (Score:2)
And its good for you too.
Layoffs? Your boss can go one step higher and protect his group.
Need stuff? Your boss can go one step higher and get the signatures he needs.
Disagreement with another department? Your boss can get his boss to fight your battles.
The only thing missing here is you spending 8 minutes a day with your boss building your relationship with him.
Cultural cost impact (Score:4, Interesting)
Something that many companies don't seem to consider when they send jobs to other countries, or split the work between different teams in different countries is that without the face to face interaction it's much harder to get to know the other people. These cultural problems would show up in reduced productivity. Rather than being worked out and adjusted for, cultural differences would have a real chance of becoming a serious issue. It might look tempting to companies to send work out to cheaper countries, but the costs can be accrued in other ways than in just salaries.
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jason
Re:Cultural cost impact (Score:5, Interesting)
The sort of problems that a multicultural development effort can cause were laid out for me at my last job -- we were a startup IP conferencing company. Roughly half the company, including the upper management and most of the developers, had come over from China within the last 2-3 years. The other half, the sales guys, marketing, QA and a release engineer (me) were all from the US.
To sum it up, it was absolutely intolerable.
First, there were essentially two offices, one speaking chinese and the other speaking english, which only interacted when forced to. You never realize how much you rely on small conversations, overheard bits of info and personal relationships until they're denied to you. Further, the company made zero effort to take down this language barrier.
Then there were the cultural problems. The Chinese work ethic (at least in that office) stressed that your contribution to the company was displayed by the number of hours you worked in any given week. So, the chinese half of the office would come in and "pace themselves" -- take long lunches (1.5+ hours, usually), eat dinner on the job, have their families stop after school, etc. Meanwhile, the Americans wanted to finish up their work and get home. I would often find myself with nothing to do but stuck at work for fear that the CEO wouldn't see me there during his nightly 7 PM rounds.
Worse than that were the not-so-obvious things, cultural problems that took time to become obvious. For example, one time diring my first month at the company, I traced an install bug to a certain developer's code (had my QA hat on that day). I mentioned it in a code review meeting, and got a response that was basically a chilly "I'm certain you are mistaken" -- a while afterwords it was pointed out to me that I'd embarressed him by pointing out the flaws in his code in front of the other developers. Too late, I'd made an enemy.
Anyhow, it was a horrible experience. Because the management apparently didn't think the cultural problems were worthy of their notice, the problems festered and grew, and in an amazingly short time the office balkanized into two camps which *hated* each other. Eventally, we stopped talking about the product and spent all our time dodging out of work and bitching about the CEO's obvious hiring of his mistress, the fact that the core code of our product was stolen from the lead developer's previous company and generally how much we hated the company but were afraid to leave (this was in the Deepest Darkest days of the recession).
Of course, the company tanked -- there's just no way it could have succeeded. It was the only time in my life I've been happy to be laid off. Looking back, I count this as a valuable lesson in the importance of morale and maintaining a cohesive team structure...
Why you gots ta be hatin'? (Score:4, Funny)
Peace out!
Word...
Company Policy also matters. (Score:4, Informative)
The previous company appeared to be lost in touch with the requirements of the client. Althoguh they had a lot of good coders, things were not implemented to the clients liking. The greatest problem was that only the project managers maintained contact with the client.
Our policy on the other hand has greater client interaction at all levels. And despite the development team being a tenth of the size of the previous company, everyone gets involved, are creative in their solutions, and less time is wasted coding and then correcting irrelevent features.
If there is any greater case for NOT outsourcing software projects to offshore, our case is a good example.
Re:Company Policy also matters. (Score:2)
This is very true.
Within the U.S. one sees work frequently organized along lines of authoritarian hierarchies. You can see this in academia, in government and major corporations. There seems to be a trend to doing more things this way in the U.S.
This type of organization also seems more likely to result in problems in the U.S. Good people are more likely to leave a work place where they're expected to obey PHBs. Problems can be surpressed in such environments.
Whether this will continue well into t
East & West meet at the Twain. (Score:4, Interesting)
As "civilization" has generally moved West across Eurasia and the Americas, while largely surviving culturally in earlier establishments, the "East" (starting at the Asian Pacific coast) is older than the "West". Of course, major paradigm shifts and even genocides have distorted even that simple gradient. And the 20th Century's cataclysm migration and telecommunications means that the meme pool has a whirlpool, swirling the cultural codes around the globe. But actual mores are encoded deep. So there is a persistent ghost of the underlying gradient. Nowadays, individuals can choose how traditional or neo they want to be in their lives. And the lack of geographic rhyme and reason is making front lines of conflict everywhere, with new syntheses in every neighborhood. Let a thousand hydroponic flowers bloom!
Re:East & West meet at the Twain. (Score:4, Insightful)
The Orient Express train went to Buda-Pest. This was consider an exotic foreign land where people did things differently (at leat in English speaking countries).
The East used to mean Eastern Europe and Constantinople (Istanbul).
Then it meant China and Japan and the other "Easts" became "Eastern Europe", "the Near East" and "The Far East".
Now it is politically correct to say "East Asia" (China/Japan/Siberia on the Pacific Coast?)
"South Asia" (India)
SouthWest Asia (Iraq/Persian Gulf)
"Central Asia" (Mongolia? Some of the former Soviet Republics?)
I haven't seen "West Asia" that much. I guess that would be Israel/Sinai/Lebanon. Turkey is still called Asia Minor and Anatolia as far as I can tell. The rest of "West Asia" would be Russia east of the Ural mountains (West of the Urals would be Europe).
I agree that East/West by itself is no longer meaningful.
Re:East & West meet at the Twain. (Score:2)
Moreover, staying ontopic, have/nots don't correlate to non/consensus decisions. Consensus groupthink is generally more conservative (in its true sense of "less
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wait! (Score:2)
are we going to hear a rebuttal now from "samurairobot"?
Re:wait! (Score:2)
The biggest cultural surprise (Score:2, Insightful)
I wonder why?
Wait a sec... (Score:2, Funny)
Wait...that sounds like a GOOD thing? GASP! You mean there's a tech article that points out a GOOD aspect of american society?! Excuse me while I wait for the end of the world to come in 5...4...3...2...1...
Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerated (Score:5, Insightful)
Stereotypes do apply, but anti-stereotypes are plenty, as well. You will find the organized Greek, the warm German, the shy Italian, the Brazilian who does not like soccer and the American who knows world geography.
I have experienced much more consistent cultural environments going from ony company (corporate culture) to another, than crossing national borders. I have seen corporate environments absorb various nationalities, even operating in different countries, and retaining its own (original) corporate culture. And I have seen, as well, plenty of cultural clashes and disagreement over world view within more than one country.
The internet makes the dissociation between nationality/geography and culture even starker.
Re:Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerat (Score:4, Funny)
Comedy gold.
Re:Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerat (Score:5, Interesting)
The French has always had a reputation for being among the bravest of the brave (ok, so sometimes they were bravest when following behind a teenage girl, but we'll overlook that). Nor have they had any traditional reputation as loosers ( and when they did lose you could count on the fact that the winner was going to pay dearly).
Google on Verdun. In WWI Germany decided they were going to win the war by "bleeding France white." And they did. What they didn't count on was that France could bleed white and remain standing.
Verdun did not fall.
What the French have, as a culture, is a sense of the gallant. The problem here is that the ultimate in gallantry is to go down fighting for a noble cause. The role model is Roland, dying while defending the pass (as it is for the Greeks if it comes to that. The battle at Thermopolyae is one of the most remarkable events in military history).
Alain Prost once noted the irony that he was vilified in France while he was winning in a French car, but became a national hero when he started coming in second in an Italian car.
The point being that the French car was superiour. Almost not winning in a superiour car is the inferiour performance from the point of view of the gallant. Almost, but not quite, winning in an inferiour car is glorious. A Pomeranian taking it to a German Shepard, and going down in defeat, but in the process leaving the Shepard so bloodied that it must retire from the field and seek the ICU.
It isn't even fair to say the French like losing. Jacques Anquitil is a French God. He was a winner, but he won with guts and spirit. Raymond Poulidor is also a French God although he was the perenial bridesmaid to a Belgian, but pushed the Belgian all the way, with guts and spirit even though the cause was laregley hopeless.
To the Frenchman it's the spirit that counts more than the end result.
Elan!
And in WWII there were an awful lot of dead Germans as the result of brave Frenchman refusing to give up the fight just because their government did.
KFG
Re:Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerat (Score:2, Funny)
Although not in the Whitehouse
Re:Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerat (Score:2)
But nationality is an administrative designation. I am a US national because I carry such documentation (ID, Passport, and, most importantly, voter's registration). National identity is a different thing. I would define it (ex Benedict Anderson/Eric Hobsbawm)/Richard Jenkins) as personal duty and subservience to an imagined, but not imaginary, community.
Re:Culture and Nationality correlation is exagerat (Score:4, Insightful)
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What's the difference between heaven and hell?
In heaven, you have British cops, French chefs, German mechanics, Swiss organizers, and Italian lovers.
In hell, you have British chefs, French mechanics, German cops, Italian organizers, and Swiss lovers.
For what it's worth, the biggest laugh
Couple stereotypes from the field (Score:2, Interesting)
Indians don't question authority, and actually have problems operating without it. They not only welcome being strictly regulated, they get stressed out in the absense of strict inflexible rules. The idea that one should question authority or make a decision that runs counter to what one has been told, never enters the thought process.
Chinese
Slashdotted - Article Content - Part 1 (Score:4, Informative)
ACM Queue vol. 1, no. 9 - December/January 2003-2004
by Judith S. Olson, University of Michigan; Gary M. Olson, University of Michigan and Collaboratory for Research on Electronic Work
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sections in this article
1: You Can't Hide from Culture
2: Dimensions of Culture
3: Cultural Differences in Development Teams
4: Groupware and Cultural Differences
5: An Emerging Internet Culture
6: References
"When in Rome" doesn't help when your team crosses time zones--and your deadline doesn't.
You Can't Hide from Culture
Technology has made it possible for organizations to construct teams of people who are not in the same location, adopting what one company calls "virtual collocation."1 Worldwide groups of software developers, financial analysts, automobile designers, consultants, pricing analysts, and researchers are examples of teams that work together from disparate locations, using a variety of collaboration technologies that allow communication across space and time.
Although solving the problems of space and time is difficult, these are not the only issues. Work that takes place over long distances means that communication will often involve different cultures. Participants may be surprised by such interactions because they have not considered various cultural differences and how they impact the daily work of long-distance teams. Our own culture is invisible to us. "We don't see our own ways of doing things as conditioned in the cradle," writes Esther Wanning, author of Culture Shock! USA. "We see them as correct, and we conclude that people from other countries have grave failings."2
The goal of this article is to review various cultural differences likely to appear in the work setting and explore their implications for virtual collocation of software development teams. We begin with a definition of culture and various dimensions of cultural difference that have emerged. Then we examine two cases: (1) one in which the team members are collocated; and (2) one involving the team in virtual collocation. From this analysis we draw some practical implications.
CULTURE AND ITS DIMENSIONS
Larry Samovar and Richard Porter3 have defined culture as:
The deposit of knowledge, experience, beliefs, values, attitudes, meanings, hierarchies, religion, notions of time, roles, spatial relations, concepts of the universe, and material objects and possessions acquired by a group of people in the course of generations through individual and group striving.
Culture is acquired. It helps people categorize and predict their world by teaching them habits, rules, and expectations from the behavior of others. It helps people "read" the world's signals--the meaning of symbols of artifacts, gestures, and accoutrements of others.4 Culture also molds the way people think: what their motivations are, how they categorize things, what inference and decision procedures they use, and the basis on which they evaluate themselves.5 It sets the gestures, space, and timing of interactions.6
There are multiple kinds of culture: national, regional, occupational, organizational, avocational, and generational. Any of these might have important effects. Here we focus on national culture, assuming that knowing at least what a member of a culture shares with others is helpful in understanding how to interpret unusual behaviors. There are cultural explanations and new signals to read in understanding various interactions with people who are unlike oneself.
JUDITH S. OLSON is the Richard W. Pew professor of human computer interaction at the University of Michigan. She is a professor in the computer and information systems department of the business school and the school of information, as well as a professor of psychology. Her research focuses on how groups get their work done and how they feel about each other when they communicate over various digital media. S
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What about the role of trust (Score:2)
American regional differences (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:American regional differences (Score:3, Interesting)
In the USA, a Yankee is someone from the Northern USA.
In the Northern USA, a Yankee is someone from New England (the northeast part of the country, from Maine to Massachussets).
In New England, a Yankee is someone from Vermont.
In Vermont, a Yankee is a local who still has an outhouse, instead of indoor plumbing.
Bad sociology (Score:4, Informative)
The "West" is a complex, stratified society with more hierarchies than Chinese society for example, and these tend to be much more arbtrary -- 'race' for example. Caste and such in India are misunderstood as being the result of oppression, not differentiation of the means of production in agrarian societies. That oppression exists in caste-based societies is a fact. That it is the result of the very caste structure itself not the means of its control and manisfestation is what you can't get through to people. Anyhow, creative thinking is not the exclusive domain of "Western" culture. And assuming that it occurs on an individual level ignores socialization as a culural force.
Look home (Score:3, Insightful)
The rank / trust system was very common throughout this entire country before the 60's. It's still prevalent in the deep South today.
I wonder if this behavior is in any way related to family upbringing? Those in more rigid and structure households (where everyone has a role and is depended on to fill that role) are more likely to trust their superiors in a professional environment. This theory could be supported by recruiting statistics, by region, of the US Armed Forces.
On the flip side - those with a loose family structure, where each member is more independent, are more likely to distrust.
Okay (Score:2)
That the Boss who thinks he is being disrespected because his employees speak up is treating those employees like objects, not people of equal status.
And the employee is well within their right to speak up. Every employee relies on their company to make the right decisions to keep them employeed. Some are even share holders. So they have a right to make sure the company is making the right decisions and getting the right feedback.
If management feels uncomfortable
Misleading Title (Score:2)
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The class of the audience... (Score:3, Interesting)
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And where east meets west... (Score:3, Interesting)
The difficulty of having Asian parents while growing up in an entirely American culture has been pretty evident... it's slightly different for every Asian-American, but from my experience and all my cousins (yes, all 15-20 of them) there's always been culture shock when it comes to girlfriends, spouses (don't get married 'til you're 28!), life decisions (you should be a doctor or a lawyer -- although at the time, software engineer was a respectable decision), and general parental control of your life. :-) Ask any Asian-American that grew up here about it, and chances are they've also been torn between the clear individualistic culture here and the clear group-oriented culture their parents came from and raised them to be.
And precious few books have been written about the subject, too... but that's starting to change. The Joy Luck Club was a start.
Personal experience agrees (Score:3, Interesting)
An interesting aspect that came out of this was the changes in the India nationals. The longer they were here, the more outspoken they become, and the better the teams began to operate. As it became apparent that their input was welcome, the suggestions stayed suggestions and when conflicting priorities came up, they were discussed and comprises were worked out. It became a much healthier environment, less re-work was done, and project items were done in better sequence.
I often wondered what difficulties arose when they finally went back to India. Did their new American-learned personality changes create problems, or were they quicly un-learned?
Cross Cultural influence (Score:3, Interesting)
The article doesn't talk about people moving to countries with different cultures and adapting to the culture of that country. Indians working in the US may behave slightly differently than Indians in India.
Isn't that good? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Couldn't agree more. (Score:2)
Re:many cultures even within west (Score:2, Funny)
Or the old heaven/hell joke:
Heaven:
Mechanics - German
Chefs - French
Lovers - Italian
Police - English
and the Swiss organize everything
Hell
Mechanics - French
Chefs - English
Lovers - Swiss
Police - German
and the Italians organize everyting
Re:Anyone... (Score:2)
Re:Eastern way is the way to get things done (Score:3, Insightful)
Not surprisingly, military organization has probably changed less than almost any other over the last couple thousand years. I feel quite sure that a modern sargent could adjust fairly easily to leading a si