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Last "Hackers On Planet Earth" Conference In July 102

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The Last H.O.P.E. ('Hackers on Planet Earth') Conference is set for July 18-20, 2008, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City. The organizers have announced their supplemental speaker list, adding on to the initial list. Topics will include 'Crafting a Security-Enhanced Wikipedia,' 'VoIP (in)security: Italians Do It Better,' 'AntiSocial Networking: Vulnerabilities in Social Nets,' 'SWF and the Malware Tragedy,' 'Simulating the Universe on Supercomputers,' and my personal favorite, 'RIAA Litigations: How the Tech Community Can Help.'"
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Last "Hackers On Planet Earth" Conference In July

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  • 2007? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DavidJSimpson ( 899508 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @07:57PM (#23717715)
    The "Last" conference is set for last year? Ironic.
  • 2007? (Score:3, Funny)

    by QUILz ( 1043102 ) <> on Monday June 09, 2008 @07:57PM (#23717727) Homepage
    Sigh, I really don't feel like shifting that old time machine I got from eBay out from the basement.
    • just remember to go back and put it next to where you're sitting when you're done and it'll be there for you to use now.

      and hey, maybe you did steal your fathers keys!
    • by dr_dank ( 472072 )
      It won't work if you don't put in the crystals.
    • You don't have to shift it, just go into the basement and use it to go back to before you put it there.
  • by moderatorrater ( 1095745 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @07:58PM (#23717733)

    'RIAA Litigations: How the Tech Community Can Help.'
    By turning ourselves in, of course. Also, not hiring lawyers and poking holes in their strategy.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Teckla ( 630646 )

      People could try, you know, not committing copyright infringement...

      • by skeeto ( 1138903 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @11:10PM (#23719265)
        You say that like copyright infringement has something to do with the RIAA lawsuit selection process.
      • just cause something is illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. remember prohibition []
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by somersault ( 912633 )

          just cause something is illegal doesn't mean it's wrong

          That is perfectly true, but just because you want something to be legal doesn't make it right. Do you think that authors shouldn't be able to try to enforce the copyright on their books, or artists shouldn't be able to enforce copyright on their digital photos? Suddenly just because you can copy something with trivial effort, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, I've done it too, but if I like a band then I will buy their album because they deserve recognition and support. All too m

          • the problem isn't authors being able to enforce copyright. It's them being able to enforce it for essentially forever and even in the grave!
          • i agree, if you like something... give the popper respects. for example, i heard about this DJ called "nick skitz" so i downloaded his stuff, LOVED it then went out and bought all his CDs (~30.) but then that brigs us to the the HUGE percentage that the labels get.

            but it's when copy right is abused to hinder development (patents) or used for censorship (church of scientology) that i (and others) say "fuck this, lets do what needs to be done"

            • When it comes to that, sure. It still doesn't get away from the fact that copying music when the copyright belongs to someone else is unethical.. thought the fact that the labels screw the artists over is also unethical, it's a dilemma. Personally I would prefer if all artists pulled a Radiohead and put their stuff up online or setup their own label, then you know that most of the money is going to the artist (and the rest pays the hosting bills/CD pressing). For lesser known/funded bands that kind of invol
  • H.G. Wells - Time Travel
    Stephen Hawking - WormHoles
    Kdawson - ADHD and how it affects an editor

  • by Anonymous Coward
    is when they auction off the attendees' credit cards, passports, and drivers' licenses. As the goods are previewed on a 60" plasma TV, generally you hear backhanded compliments along the lines of "hey, that's got a better picture of me than the real thing."
  • Radio Statler (Score:5, Informative)

    by double-oh three ( 688874 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @08:09PM (#23717825)
    For those of you that can't attend, there will be an internet radio station (which I am helping put together) from and about the conference (details here: [] ), with interviews and news and other bits from the con.
    • by Nullav ( 1053766 )
      So, there's going to be a dupe for this year? Go, Slashdot! :D
    • Re:Radio Statler (Score:4, Informative)

      by certron ( 57841 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2008 @01:29AM (#23720501)
      Aside from the radio station, there will be other projects, such as the NOC NOC (none of our concern network operations center, a coat check for servers), and the Attendee Metadata project, which seeks to use 2.4GHz OpenBeacon tags to track all the attendees. [] They need some volunteers for this project, actually, so if you have some microcontroller skills, drop them a line at projects at

      This looks like it will be a great conference, I'm looking forward to attending.
  • by John Hasler ( 414242 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @08:11PM (#23717849) Homepage
    Set up honeypots to entrap the RIAA into sending bogus notices. Thoroughly document this and make the results available to those defending themselves against RIAA suits (and to those pursuing class action suits against the RIAA).

    Also try to trick them into breaking into and/or DOSing bittorent trackers (preferably ones not being used to infringe any RIAA copyrights).
    • by Anonymous Coward
      The trackers just need to start giving them some fake peers. Maybe give them ONLY fake peers if they're the one guy who has 800 torrents, but which isn't sharing...
    • It'd be a shame if someone were to share a small trojan horse or worm as $currentTop40PopSong.exe.mp3 ;)

      "It's like they know what we're going to do before we do it!"
      • You mean $CT40PS.mp3.exe?

        See, Windows hides the .exe extension...
        • Yeah, that's the one. For some odd reason it makes more sense to me that the last extension should be honored, not the first. I'm too used to tarred gzips where the final extension (we'll disregard magic numbers for the moment) is the significant one.
  • Conference is set for July 18-20, 2007, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City.

    So this was last year then?
  • There is an obvious time wrap in the summary.
  • by QMalcolm ( 1094433 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @08:30PM (#23718003)
    They have been VERY careful about not explicitly saying that this is the final hope. They are just calling this year's conference "The Final Hope".
    • by 6350' ( 936630 )
      On the other hand, I keep seeing people (on their forum) not explicitly saying that it *isnt* the last HOPE. There was some speculation that perhaps this is the final HOPE at the current digs/location, but I couldn't get any firm details on that front. Any additional info would be useful.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by DeathB ( 10047 )
      Right before The Last HOPE was announced, Vornado Realty Trust announced that they were tearing down the Hotel Pennsylvania before 2010 (when the next HOPE presumably would be). While there are certainly other venues in NYC, finding one the size of the space HOPE has in the Hotel Penn at a price that HOPE could be under $100 has appeared pretty hopeless.
    • Sorry. I'm not seeing "The Final Hope" anywhere. But I am seeing "The Last HOPE" on the 2600 news page [] *and* on "The Last HOPE's []" official site.

      There's even a picture of a tombstone [] on their official site that reads "Hope: 1994 - 2008."
    • you mean, its not their only HOPE? is there another?
  • The Last H.O.P.E. ('Hackers on Planet Earth') Conference is set for July 18-20, 2007.

    I guess, we had no hope for 11 months already...

  • by db32 ( 862117 ) on Monday June 09, 2008 @08:42PM (#23718079) Journal
    It's just a jump to the left...
    And a damned bad editor...
    I mean really...I am disappointed with the hacking community now big time. Master time travel and all you can come up with is hold a conference complaining about things? Paradox be damned its worth it to try and fix the unmitigated disasters in freedom that have been going on the last 20 years or so.
    • 20 years or so my arse it started with the Romans!

      I mean what have the Romans ever done for us hmmm?
      • by db32 ( 862117 )
        I have tried to come up with a decent answer witty or not but I just can't. I have long been of the belief that the spread of the Roman empire is ultimately what screwed civilization up in the long term (At least western).
        • Misogynistic, imperialistic, paranoid, narcissists with a penchant for toy solders?

          Nah there's no way they could be involved.
  • by ratguy ( 248395 )
    'SWF and the Malware Tragedy'

    Sounds like a sequel to 'The Net'.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    "AntiSocial Networking"... ...Yeah, think the slashdot crowd has that covered.
  • Elope.... after they grep, touch, poke, and head and tail each other in NICE ways....
  • by Anonymous Coward
    And what will it be called ? "The Future Hope" ? "The Next Hope" ? "The Hope Strikes Back" ? "The Once and Future Hope" ? "Infinite Hope" ?

    But seriously, now that Hotel Pennsylvannia will be turned into millionaire's housing, maybe this thing can be moved to a cheaper and more accessible part of the country. Especially in light of the economy, we should focus on a place that is central and is a big Greyhound hub. Maybe a place where there are a lot of urban ruins, and it would be really cheap to rent s
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by DeathB ( 10047 )

      But seriously, now that Hotel Pennsylvannia will be turned into millionaire's housing, maybe this thing can be moved to a cheaper and more accessible part of the country. Especially in light of the economy, we should focus on a place that is central and is a big Greyhound hub. Having everyone all camp out might be a bit of a stretch,

      So it's not cheap, but more accessible and more of a Greyhound hub than NYC? Does such a place actually exist? NY has 3+ airports, good connections by bus and train and is central for the East Coast (which has half of the US population). Even the center of US population is right around the Mississippi.

      Perhaps some people could get together to organize a complementary conference, to be held in January (cheaper travel and most time separation from the real Hope). I suggest we put it in some place like Albequerque or Los Cruces, which might be bearable at that time of year, and is generally cheap.

      There are alot of hacker conferences in the US other than Defcon (Las Vegas) and HOPE (although those are the two biggest). Off the top of my head there is also Summercon (Atlanta), Notacon (Cleveland), Sch

  • "The Last H.O.P.E. ('Hackers on Planet Earth') Conference is set for July 18-20, 2007, at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York City.
    Attendance by TARDIS only?
  • They've hacked our timeline? These guys are good.
  • If my company is making me choose 1 conference, should I choose HOPE or DEFCON? HOPE seems less expensive and has more "mainstream" keynote speakers, but DEFCON seems to have much MUCH more substance. Any tips for someone who has not attended either and must choose?
    • Any tips for someone who has not attended either and must choose?
      To get a feel for what actually goes on at HOPE panels, you could go to some of the past HOPE sites (all liked from HOPE's wikipedia entry []) and check out the freely available MP3s of all the talks which were given.
  • Ted: Bill? Bill: yes Ted? Ted: We should collect that socrates dude and totally travel back in time to this most excellent party. Bill: totally Ted. We should grab Rufus too! Ted: Bill, this is the Last HOPE Bill: Bogus!
  • about the typo, folks.

    Yes it's 2008.

    2007 was the Next to Last H.O.P.E. conference.


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