15-Year-Old Sells Startup To ActiveState 140
jcasman writes "Some entrepreneurs wait a lifetime to experience the thrill of selling their startup companies. Daniil Kulchenko, a Seattle area high school student, accomplished that milestone at the age of 15. Kulchenko today announced that he's sold his startup, a cloud-based computing company known as Phenona, to Vancouver, B.C.-based ActiveState in a deal of undisclosed size."
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people still care about Perl?
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who cares, it's Perl.
Fuck Perl in the ass hole with a big rubber dick then break it off when it's halfway inside. Enough about Perl.
The important take-away from this story is that this businessdude is A) not female and B) not black. I don't have to RTFA to know that. Neither do you.
Just keep tellin' yourself it's all a big coincidence you politically correct tool. Have fun with that!
i can't tell if thats a sexist nigger joke or a lament about the way we treat women and "brown people" different in society
they both work. it's like some kind of crazy quantum duality
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Jealous much? ..
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Re:Undisclosed size? (Score:5, Insightful)
Born into being fed with silverspoon, using rich engineer Daddy's academic resources, name, and business connections is not at all impressive.
Correction: it's not as impressive as it otherwise would be. If the dad inspired his kid that much then he is impressive too.
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Re:Undisclosed size? (Score:5, Insightful)
I didn't need to read the article to assume that was the case. You hear a lot of stories every year about genius children who discover something fantastic or start a company or a major project that makes them wealthy and/or famous and their parents are almost exclusively professionals in the same field that their child is "excelling" in. The lesson being that it's not some independent kid coming up from scratch doing something amazing - it's almost always a kid (probably smart and ambitious, still) who had a parent get them into the stuff in the first place, then support them, guide them, advise them, help them make contacts, help them find resources, have their friends and colleagues chip in where needed.
It's not to diminish the success, but to point out that the reason THIS kid did this and YOUR kid won't is that YOU probably don't have all the resources and connections to give your child from early on to guide them into this.
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However, without a parent in the field with the connections and resources, any interest such a child might show in a particular field would probably not be very fruitful. Take this same kid and take his dad out of the picture, make his mom a nurse or waitress, and put them in a low end two bedroom apartment and this kid's great accomplishment becomes graduating highschool and possibly attending community college against the odds.
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It's not just that, people with rich parents rarely ever have to do a large number of chores around the house and whatnot, so they have a lot more spare time. Most rich kids squander that gift, this kid didn't. Man what I wouldn't give to have all that time I spent mowing the lawn, washing dishes, cleaning, doing laundry etc. back when I was a kid.....
You'd only have spent the time enjoying yourself, which is no great life lesson to teach a child. You were better off learning that adult life is a combination of boredom and pointless hard work at a young age.
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It's not just that, people with rich parents rarely ever have to do a large number of chores around the house and whatnot, so they have a lot more spare time. Most rich kids squander that gift, this kid didn't. Man what I wouldn't give to have all that time I spent mowing the lawn, washing dishes, cleaning, doing laundry etc. back when I was a kid.....
You'd only have spent the time enjoying yourself, which is no great life lesson to teach a child. You were better off learning that adult life is a combination of boredom and pointless hard work at a young age.
I bet you're just loads of fun at parties. Not that I disagree with you, exactly
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Who is more likely to get into a tech field early on, have the support and guidance from an adult, early on, and have the encouragement, connections, and resources so early on? The kid with the dad who is a robotics and AI scientist or the kid with the dad who works at a concessions stand at a ballpark?
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I've had a fairly solid middle-class upbringing and can't say that we could ever afford to vacation in Mexico.
What makes you think that your family was middle class?
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Born into being fed with silverspoon, using rich engineer Daddy's academic resources, name, and business connections... is not at all impressive.
Citation please. The fantasy you built typically condems teens to failure. They get money, cars, and cheerleader girlfriends so why do anything else? So... If any of your fantasy of why you haven't done better in life actually turns out to be true then I have even more respect for the kid. From the TFA he was a freelance Linux admin at 11 so he got hooked young, has a knack, and stuck with it.
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I don't think we can make any assumptions about the wealth of the family, but you absolutely can't dismiss the fact that if his dad had a completely different career or wasn't even in the picture, he would not have gone beyond the "expressed an interested in" stage. You see, expressing an interest in something at a very early age doesn't magically provide you with a computer, educational resources for using it and programming with it, internet access, encouragement, guidance, advice, resources, connections
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Don't feel like you need to defend yourself against any of the trolling comments here (and in fact you're better off ignoring them). You're a talented young man - and anyone of any importance in the world is going to recognize that immediately. This guy is not important.
Congrats on your success. If you care to share how much $$ you made on the sale, we would all be interested.
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Anyway, well done.
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I don't think any rational person is discounting the accomplishment and the awesomeness, but let's not dismiss the endless stories we've seen over the years about "ten year old does awesome thing in technology" and "fifteen year old makes scientific discovery" and "seventeen year old founds awesome tech darling" where their parents are always established in the same field themselves. Where are all the stories of these kids from single parent families who live in the part of town where you don't go out at ni
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No, No never do that. Some of us are still bitter (old/older) IT-janitors.
If you think this is turning way too hateful now just wait and see then.
Re:Undisclosed size? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm not surprised that a smart kid can do what you do especially now given the vast resources available on the Internet. There's just so much a person can learn online nowadays, the issue is more of what you want to learn and spend your time on.
When you get older you might find you have less energy and time to spend on your interests, and stuff might just not feel as interesting and exciting- you might get a bit jaded. The first time you eat ice cream is often much better than the 100th time, even though the ice cream has not changed.
So before that happens, have fun, stay motivated, keep doing stuff and keep finding cool stuff to do! And you might find you never get old, just older
p.s. try not to spend too much time on Slashdot - it can be a big time-sink...
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I am sure, plenty of Slashdot posters at some point promised to host someone else's perl scripts and were paid for it.
...and now ActiveState gets mass publicity (Score:5, Insightful)
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This is still news for nerds... remember when the 15-20 year olds ran the tech world? Unfortunately for our 15-20 year old readers, they do not remember, because it has been so long.
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Seriously, *YAWN*. I read what this shit did, amazing, 10 years ago. Maybe PERL is really lacking this, in which case, great. PERL guys, welcome to 2001.
Typical developer jealousy and arrogance
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Ah, I see we have a Ruby/Rails developer in the house...
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Or a disgruntled former PERL developer, is my guess. :P
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Re:Heroku (Score:5, Informative)
So its Heroku for perl devs?
Apparently that's what it looks like... except it's a 15 year old who dun it. FTFA:
Your app is launched into a securely partitioned environment on a cloud server. All CPAN modules required by your app are installed. MySQL and memcached are automatically set up, and connection information is exposed to you via environmental variables. In front of your app sits a Varnish caching server, quietly improving the performance of your app.
More in the article, but that's already pretty amazing.
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Cloning a VM is amazing? The real magic(tm) is in creating the VM the first time. (something my coworkers learned recently when I made them build the windows vms for virtual center, domain controller, etc.)
He appears to have written some scripts / programs to automate a highly complex process. System admins have been doing that for as long as computers have existed. He's managed to get someone to buy his creation -- for an undisclosed amount that isn't likely to be the billions the /. crowd is making it
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" I made them build the windows vms"
You heartless bastard!
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Cloning a VM is amazing? The real magic(tm) is in creating the VM the first time.
You obviously don't understand PaaS [wikipedia.org]. The developer who deploys *never touches* a VM. It's created on the fly, not cloned, with load-balancing, dependencies and caching all figured out for you.
the story here.... (Score:5, Insightful)
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the kid is 15. Another few years and this wouldnt have been newsworthy.
Wrong. If it was an 18-year-old girl, we'd be proposing to her with haikus and fanfic letters,.
(captcha: pervert)
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Don't be too hard on yourself. Was your dad a robotics and AI researcher with all sorts of resources and connections to help you do something more than mow lawns? Probably not.
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As others have mentioned, you come across as being extremely jealous. And for an adult to make jealous comments about a teenager - well what can I say except that those comments reflect far worse on the adult, and are generally indicative of an adult who has had issues adapting to life as a grown-up.
Feel free to co
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Right, the only response acceptable is "wow, amazing". It's certainly not worth pushing the point that the kid next door to you with less accomplished and connected parents won't have any such opportunity.
Like this kid, I found an opportunity and exploited it at a young age, which I was able to make into a great and very fulfilling career. I didn't have the parents aspect, but I did benefit from rare fortunate circumstances that do not fall most teenagers who *do* have an interest or even a passion in somet
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http://www.ted.com/talks/william_kamkwamba_on_building_a_windmill.html [ted.com]
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Is what he said correct? Is/was his dad a robotics and AI researcher (looking at the article, that seems to be true)? Instantly assuming that he is jealous because he mentioned that (or because he gave criticism) doesn't make sense to me. I don't know whether he is jealous or not, and that's precisely why I wouldn't reach a conclusion about whether he is jealous or not. I have seen quite a few people use the "you're just jealous" argument whenever someone mentions something that could downplay a well-off pe
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Sorry, but unless you're a mind reader, I don't see how you can state such a thing as an absolute fact. Again, you're just assuming that the only reason he would post that (a fact, no less) is because he is jealous. How do you know there aren't other reasons? Because you can't think of them? That doesn't mean that they don't exist. In this instance, he may have just wanted to inform readers about the kid's father's career and does not actually care about the kid's success. Who knows?
Not only that, but I don
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No offense, but the only thing stopping you is the belief that you can accomplish your goal.
Follow your dreams if you have them, don't wait, life it way too short.
I didn't wait, because my family wasn't exactly rollin' in the cash and at 13 I mowed lawns, and at 14 I did the early am paper route thing and hated it, so I started 2 businesses while still in middle school (only to be shut down by my school administration through a ban on my products), and in high school I started another business that I ran fo
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It's true. I believe I can go out for a walk this afternoon, and now I can't move my legs.
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Actually, selling it is probably a wise move whether arrived at on his own or by counsel of those advising him. Better to reap what benefits you can, now, rather than try and balance it and all of high school and hope that it all "just works out". Instead, he seems to have parlayed not only a short term success and reward, but an opportunity at ActiveState, which could be more valuable to him in the long run. Especially as they appear considerate of his age and obligations.
Not to mention, this builds a trac
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The reality of it is, the kid didn't actually do all of this.
If you go to the site for the product, its very clear that its no 15 year olds company.
At best, he took some of daddies money and told some other people to make some shit and his parents called it a company, his idea possibly developed to what it is now by some actual developer hired to work for him.
Whats likely is that his parents and he worked on this together, and the parents are calling it 'his company', but it would never exist without them.
W
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You already proved his points wrong - your apostrophes and commas are all correctly placed. For an average Slashdot commenter, that's virtually unsurmountable achievement as it is.
Of course, judging by your name, you're Russian or Ukrainian, so you've actually had to learn English. So maybe it doesn't really count. ~
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The website gives it away: [phenona.com]
"I was working on a client project back in 2009, a Craigslist aggregator which I wrote in Catalyst, and spent a large portion of my vacation in Mexico trying to get it to work on the client's IIS server. It was a nightmare. At the time, I'd already heard of Heroku, a simple deployment solution for Ruby-based web apps, and I thought: why Ruby and not us? I spent weeks researching Heroku, and the work on Phenona had begun."
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Actually, yes, it does sound realistic. When I was 14, I did some VB6 coding for money (well okay, not in Mexico). And while I didn't spend my entire vacation on it, I did spend most of one vacation - including my 15th birthday that happened to be at the time - writing my own BASIC compiler, for the fun of it.
No, it doesn't make one a genius. All it really takes is some innate curiosity and ability to stick to a specific goal for long enough, some aptitude for coding, parents who encourage it or at least do
Good for him! (Score:1)
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Activestate are not some unsophisticated VC who can be "cheated by cloud related buzzwords". They package their own distribution of Perl, and they have a very good editor/IDE for Perl/Python/Ruby.
They know their Ruby and Perl markets quite well, and if they think something is worth investing in, it's because they think the technology is the market needs,
and they can sell.
"Cloud-based" (Score:1)
Re:"Cloud-based" (Score:5, Interesting)
Sounds like a deployment service. From their page:
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Or a meta-package.
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When was the last time you looked at what's new in Perl or read "Modern Perl"? No, didn't think so. Throw-away attitudes are easy. Have you any idea what's in the perldeltas for the last 2 releases? No, thought not. Done anything with Moose? I rest my case.
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Perl remains extremely powerful and one of the most versatile languages, even today. That said, the heavily trafficked and fairly complex 15,000 lines of code service I wrote when I was a kid (well, before drinking age) from scratch in 1998-2000 that powered everything up until 2011 is probably not the choice I would make if I were doing it all over again, today. At least, not if I were still starting out as I mostly was, back then. I made the mistake of choosing it as my first real language that I really d
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The most interesting part of this story is that someone under the age of 45 actually thinks using perl for new code is a good idea.
I hope all my competitors keep using slow and/or memory-ravenous web development languages!
How about his parents (Score:1)
His parents can be worried now, becasue all of the kids with monis in my school had problems with drugs, smokes, games and alk. I hope someone will manage his monis before he can understand how success corrupts the mind.
On the positive side. It is cool that someone takes a 15 year old boy seriously enough to buy a company from him.
Kudos from http://epSos.de
Not sure I understand... (Score:1, Insightful)
Name things better (Score:1)
Tools from the "What is Phenona" page: Catalyst, Heroku, Dancer, Mojolicious, DBIx::Class, Varnish, Squid, beanstalkd, TheSchwartz, Redis.
Seriously, web developers, can the names of your shit please give some sort of superficial indication of what the hell they do?
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It seems kind of obvious what DBIx::Class does.
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Well, I think TheSchwartz's name was basically Brad Fitzgerald's idea of a joke back when he worked at Livejournal. (He has a blog post about it somewhere.) No idea about the rest of them though...
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Huh (Score:1)
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Would be it that *I* had been as knowledgeable and motivated at his age...
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Something fishy here... (Score:1)
A 15 year old can't even sign binding contracts, let alone form or sell a company. This smells like a slashvertisement.
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I don't believe he was 15 either. FTFA:
I was working on a client project back in 2009, a Craigslist aggregator which I wrote in Catalyst, and spent a large portion of my vacation in Mexico trying to get it to work on the client's IIS server. It was a nightmare....
That would have made him about 13 at the time. What company employ's a 13 year old to work on expensive company servers. Regardless if he is a prodigy.
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Meet Daniil Kulchenko. He was an HTML programmer at age six. He was a freelance Linux systems administrator at 11. And at 15, he founded his first business: Phenona, a platform-as-a-service for building and hosting Perl applications.
There's a pic of him in there.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/14/activestate_buys_teen_programmer/ [theregister.co.uk]
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What do you want? A long-form birth certificate?
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Unless of course his parents force fed him source code since he was an infant; which is probably the case if he is a real person.
Well, he is the son of this guy [cpan.org], who has been known to write some seriously gnarly code [soaplite.com]:
The source code is notoriously complex, a mark of the seriously ingenious Paul Kulchenko who created SOAP:Lite. As a result baffles most inexperienced Perl programmers, and indeed sends many of them running in shear terror. I myself am given the highest respect in my office for signing up to maintain the module for this fact alone - I work with some of the brightest and most experienced Perl programmers in the industry and they all look at SOAP::Lite in awe. And not the "good" kind of awe, the kind of awe that gives people a healthy, but fearful respect.
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Yeah, the El Reg interview was an audio interview, I was also on KOMO News Radio, local here in Seattle. What else do you need, some photos off my Facebook profile? ;)
Not even a facebook profile would completely convince me. But the audio file, and that you were on a radio station that I listen to often(I'm actually from Seattle too), is proof enough. Usually I'm just skeptical to be skeptical and it only allows me to be more confident about the conclusions I draw. I'm sorry I have to take such an incredulous stance, but it's in my nature.
Congrats on achieving so much so early in life though. I'm sure we'll all hear about a lot more of your achievements down the road.
Ignore the Curmudgeons (Score:1)
Congratulations on your achievement, and may there be more in your future.
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Since when does the state of Washington put an age limit on who can incorporate, form an LLC, or just run a plain old sole proprietorship? ActiveState bears some risk that he will choose to void the sale before he turns 18. Apparently that is a risk they are willing to take.
I suck (Score:5, Funny)
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Good effort no matter what age (Score:2)
Salesman (Score:2)
This kid would certainly have a bright future as a salesman.
Here we go again... (Score:2)
This is the 21st century version of the shoe-shine boy giving stock advice. It's clear now we're in for another tech bubble fiasco.
Perl is still alive! (Score:2)
Hey, i programmed perl when this guy was born.....
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Yea, its decentralized ... except the trackers and the search sites aren't, which for all practical purposes are required for bittorrent to be useful in a general purpose sense.
Its funny when people such as yourself run on about decentralized apps without realizing there isn't a 'decentralized' app on the Internet that doesn't depend directly on indirectly on something that is centralized and authoritative in order to thwart potential Bad Guys(tm).
I'm guessing by your post and its tone that you're what ...