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Oracle, Cloudera Team Up On Hadoop Appliance 44

Posted by samzenpus from the check-it-out dept.
LinuxScribe writes "Oracle has announced a new Big Data Appliance, which will feature Cloudera's Hadoop, shiny hardware, and a price tag that could be more affordable than commodity servers. But Oracle's new Cloudera partner should heed the lessons of Red Hat and what it means to partner with Oracle."
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  • Oracle (Score:5, Insightful)

    by masternerdguy ( 2468142 ) on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @10:10AM (#38650980)
    Once you start along the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
  • ...I forecast for the magnificent Hadoop project, if and when they "partner" with Oracle. Nothing will come of it but bigger yachts for Larry E., mark my sad words.

  • Embrace and suffocate ?? Anyone ? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nomad63 ( 686331 ) on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @10:32AM (#38651292)
    Ellison's strategy sounds too much like, that of Redmond's finest. Problem is, Oracle is getting too big in the datacenter landscape. He has oracle, which is the de-facto database for most any organization who wants accountability and have money to spend. He has hardware (SUN) which still has the biggest footprint in data centers after X86. He has Oracle Linux which is, for all intents and purposes, Red-Hat EL. The only thing he did not have was something to handle large, unstructured data, likes of TereData and Cloudera/Hadoop is serving it on a silver platter. Who is going to stop the Oracle wave, I don't know. Oracle is becoming a monopoly, much worse than Google or Microsoft in my opinion. Where are the regulators who blocked the AT&T and T-Mobile merger (Kudos to them by the way). We need them right here, right now.
    • Could be worse, could be Apple.

      • Could be worse, could be Apple.

        I hope more than anything that Apple doesn't take over the way Microsoft did. That's probably the best reason to use Android.

    • He has oracle, which is the de-facto database for most any organization who wants accountability and have money to spend

      I don't know what universe you live in, buddy, but a few big companies running a single oracle database does NOT make it "de-facto". Of all of my professional experience, along with all of the colleagues I've had, EVERYONE steers clear of Oracle. I've seen a single Oracle database in production at Heinz/Del Monte, and there was a "shadow" database in MS SQL Server, synched daily, because

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by Amouth ( 879122 )

        ERP's are more and more relying on Oracle - i know SAP uses it almost exclusively.. sure they say they support others but in reality it is far harder to get it running well on anything but Oracle that it should just be considered what is supported.

        As markets grow and products get refined - the company that is most efficient survives (ignore government driven ones on that). And ERP's are what will allow them do to it. as more ERP's move to Oracle - more companies will be moved into Oracle..

        While you may s

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by gl4ss ( 559668 )

        he lives in this universe. but he should have noted "who wants accountability but doesn't actually GET any accountability". choosing oracle is supposed to be a safe bet, like "nobody ever got fired for choosing ibm". of course it's pretty much bullshit, just going with oracle doesn't guarantee anything about how the applications are going to hammer it nor if it's going to be configured right.

        governmental budgets are quite often spent on oracles, instead of hiring a guy to configure whatever other db to actu

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jbolden ( 176878 )

      How is this is a monopoly? I think you mean conglomerate.

  • When I first read that I thought it said Caldera. I was thinking, Zombie SCO has risen and joined forces with Oracle? What's next? Voting republican?

    Tim Horton's, you have failed me!

  • Nonsense, no such "Red Hat Lesson" (Score:5, Interesting)

    by iggymanz ( 596061 ) on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @10:49AM (#38651540)

    Oracle's Linux is Red Hat Linux, they add some GPL licensed improvements. Anyone is free to use those, that includes Red Hat. I work as migrator/integrator/architect for a VAR with clients some of whom have IT budgets over $1 billion, I've not yet seen anyone use Oracle's Linux to run Oracle's wares (or anything else, for that matter), all choose Red Hat (some Centos too)

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      (caveat - I work for Oracle)

      The reason to use Oracle EL instead of RH is that RH refuses to put a number of bug fixes into place for Oracle products. Oracle submitted thousands (yes, thousands) of bug fixes and were ignored by RH. If you want to run Oracle on RH, run OEL. I've seen many customers who get really mad at Oracle because something doesn't work correctly on RH. There is nothing Oracle can do except recommend a different OS vendor

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by jdbuz ( 962721 )
      (Caveat - I work for Oracle too) Anytime you hear that someone is using one of these big Exadata machines, they are using Oracle Linux. See: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/features/exadata-196883.html [oracle.com]

  • Too bad Google licensed [theregister.co.uk] their MapReduce patent to Apache Hadoop. It would have been a nice stick to beat up Oracle with.

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