The Academy For Software Engineering: a High School For Developers 56
rjmarvin writes "The Academy for Software Engineering, right off of Manhattan's Union Square, is in its second year of educating students for a future in computer science and software engineering. No entrance exams, no admission standards, just an opportunity for any student interested in software to take specialized classes like robotics and programming, go on trips to companies like Google and Facebook, and spend summers interning at Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase before heading to college and into the workforce, powering the next wave of innovation as members of the tech workforce in New York's burgeoning 'Silicon Alley.'"
uhh... (Score:4, Insightful)
So is it absurdly expensive or do they use a lottery system?
Re:uhh... (Score:5, Funny)
Like much of the tech sector, they keep costs down by replacing most students with robots and outsourcing the rest to India.
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Obviously, the students at that school are already better educated than you. They can read. It's a public school that does not charge students.
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Same net effect - the ignorant remain ignorant.
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LOL!
Of course, you're now claiming to be educated by people who generally can't bother to RTFA. That's still not a claim to be proud of.
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I sometimes believe that RTFA is a not a arcane art but a dying art. Second paragraph under the picture says .......
"The AFSE has unscreened enrollment, meaning admission decisions aren’t based on academic performance. All students need to do is attend an open house, apply, and hope their lottery number is picked."
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Like all hopes of economic advancement in the U.S. today, it all hinges on winning the lottery.
Re:Wrong source (Score:2)
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He must be a pretty smart dipstick if he's posting on the Internet. My dipstick just sort of sits in my car all day until I want to check my oil.
Warning! (Score:2)
Trust issue and cynicism trigger.
Re:Accreditation? (Score:4, Informative)
It's a fully accredited NYC public high school. RTFA before posting your "OMG SCAM SCARE" nonsense.
The education part sounds great... (Score:3, Insightful)
But why should you do evil and work for the criminals in the financial sector? Have you no sense of ethics ?
Just because an inner city kid is poor and needs a free education doesn't mean he should do the dirty work.
JPMorgan owes a lot more than 13 billion and a free tech farm for grooming new corporate fall guys.
Why should crime pay when its too big to fail, with labor that is too small to pay, except for the dirty work.
I'm glad for the free school but I can't help but be cynical about Wall Street.
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second that.
Thie program comes with a brainwashing guarantee.
I mean: Google, Facebook and JPMorgan!
War is Peace!
Privacy is a crime!
Sell your friends!
Debt is your own fault!
Shut Up And Shop!
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This post is "insightful?" Since when is profit bad? Without profit, you would have literally nothing except what you could physically make with your own hands. No food, no clothes, and especially no electronics or computers. Who do you think finances all these companies, fairies? No, Wall Street and their investors. So get off your high horse and stop complaining about "criminals" in Wall Street you Communist! Go live with nothing, and I mean nothing, for a year then I'll listen. Until then you're nothing but a hypocritical Communist agitator.
Pull your head out of your ass. I never mentioned anything that you just made up and interjected. I never said anything about Capitalism or Communism, because its not the cold war or the 20th Century anymore. We're not discussing the elimination of clothing and computers or electronics and re-entering the stone age or even of believing in fairies. All off that came out of your ass, and yet your head appears to be firmly implanted there.
So try to pay attention this time, because this is not a campaign of
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Wish more people were like you. Seems most people can't be bothered to fight oppression, as long as it seems mild or remote.
There's all this government hate, yet people will not fight government abuse of law enforcement to raise revenue. I'm talking things like speed traps, red light camera tickets, parking meter programs, as well as the many schemes not involving cars. Then the local governments get scammed themselves when they float bonds and can't manage to secure a competitive interest rate, thanks
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JPMorgan owes a lot more than 13 billion
Chunk of change, compared to the billions the US government sends down the toilet _every_ _single_ _day_. I'm not saying that makes it OK, but we should start looking at the real problems instead of the smoke and mirrors talking points.
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JPMorgan owes a lot more than 13 billion
Chunk of change, compared to the billions the US government sends down the toilet _every_ _single_ _day_. I'm not saying that makes it OK, but we should start looking at the real problems instead of the smoke and mirrors talking points.
Exactly right. That is the perfect place to start. Suddenly the echo of ideologues' mantras drown out the silent uncertainty that we all must feel as we look at the incomprehensible scale of 330 Million Americans and another 7 billion bound to our international trade agreements. I just have one question, how is that supposed to look in a perfect world? If this looks broken now then what does fixed look like? There is no ideology that can alter the current reality in any significant way. Not Paul Rya
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Depends on the goal. Why do people keep wanting to be videogame developers (enough so that the likes of EA can basically pay less than minimum wage and 100 hour weeks)?
You tell a kid who grew up in poverty that they can get an education that gets them into places like JPMorgan and such? Well damn
Even my old high school is doing this (Score:3)
Can't be any worse than Common Core, regardless.
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In the entertainment industry, it has produced an editor for Pawn Stars and an Emmy winner, among others. I don't have any information on how many successful software developers it has produced.
http://itfp.lps.org/alumni.html [lps.org] http://itfp.lps.org/graphics/Kelly.htm [lps.org]
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I'm
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at least it's better then theory loaded CS college (Score:3)
at least it's better then theory loaded CS colleges where you learn skills that give a big skills gap on the stuff needed to do the job.
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Yes, CS is mainly about computational science theory. That's the point.
No serious CS course is gonna teach Java 7 Programming with Oracle 11g
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That's debatable. At least with "theory loaded CS colleges" you learn the theory. And, if you have the moxie to get an actual CS degree, you're probably not going to have a lot of trouble filling in that "big skills gap" on your own time, which generally means having knowledge of the programming language/toolkit du jour (and which is, surprisingly enough, what you'll be asked to do on the job as a programmer in the real world - do you really think that companies pay for technology training anymore?).
For "pu
Universities are not vocational schools (Score:4, Interesting)
at least it's better then theory loaded CS colleges where you learn skills that give a big skills gap on the stuff needed to do the job.
Universities are not vocational schools. If you want to learn the languages and operating systems that are used at a job ***today*** then go to your local junior college (JC) and take the relevant vocational classes. JCs do a fine job in this regard. If you want the theory and background knowledge that is more persistent, that will outlast the programming languages and operating systems that are popular today then you go to the university. In the university you are often expected to learn the programming languages and operating systems of the day on your own time. As you will have to do throughout your career. Even things necessary for class are often on your own time. For example in a compilers class the class time may be mostly spent on compiler theory. You may be offered an optional session led by a TA to introduce you to lex and yacc (used to implement your compiler) but you are expected to learn these mostly on your own. Similar story in AI classes, theory in class, a TA session for LISP or Prolog, but mostly you learn the programming language on your own time. Programming languages and operating systems are implementation details, they change over time. The theory tends to last a bit longer.
I have two books from the early 1980s. A book on programming MS-DOS and Knuth Volume 3: Sorting and Searching. The former is full of what was once useful info for a job and went into the recycle bin when cleaning out the garage recently. The later is theory and is still a valuable and useful reference today and still sits on my bookshelf.
If you have a skills gap after the university you made some sort of mistake. At the university you are surround by people (professors and fellow students) with an incredibly variety of skills and knowledge, you have incredible resources (hardware and software) available, if you are not doing some sort of independent study on your own you are making a mistake. If you are doing nothing other than homework assignment on the default hardware using the default languages you are making a mistake, you are making yourself less attractive to employers. Assuming of course you don't have a job or some other "legitimate" demand on your time.
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Nail, head hit. What is needed is to teach the basics about languages, so jumping from perl to java to ABAP to Scheme to Ada is a relatively minor item (you figure out syntax, variable convention, etc... perhaps procedural versus lambda based, etc.)
After these basics, one can learn Java and be a Java dev, but when that peters out, it doesn't take much to grab an O'Reilly guide and start programming in PHP, Python, or perhaps even back to perl.
In most languages [1], a ring buffer is a ring buffer. A queue
programmers now a commodity (Score:2)
AKA ... (Score:2)
Little Lord Fauntleroy Academy for Albino Hemophiliacs.
Nothing new! (Score:2)
This is not a new thing. In the 1976 the Mario Umana Harbor School of Science and technology was formed as a partnership between MIT and the Boston Public Schools. We never got tours of Facebook or Google, but that might be because they didn't exist at the time. We got tours of the MIT museums and labs.
Of course, who doesn't know about the Bronx High School of Science.