Studio Ghibli Animation Software Going "Open Source"; Details Pending (toonzpremium.com) 102
Michael Tiemann writes: Digital Video, the makers of TOONZ, and DWANGO, a Japanese publisher, announced today they have signed an agreement for the acquisition by Dwango of Toonz, an animation software which was independently developed by Digital Video (Rome, Italy). Digital Video and Dwango have agreed to close the deal under the condition Dwango will publish and develop an Open Source platform based on Toonz (OpenToonz). Effective Saturday March 26, the TOONZ Studio Ghibli Version will be made available to the animation community as a free download. Not yet clear is which existing open source license will be used for the software, if any. If it is properly licensed as open source software, then we should all celebrate this event by drawing unicorns and rainbows. If not, many will be dis-spirited away. Animation World Network also reports this news, and adds a few more details, but is similarly vague about the license terms. I hope the terms are such that we'll soon see Toonz in media-centric Linux distros, and in widespread classroom use.
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I think Ghibli is a model of Maserati (Italian sports car) from the 70's
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What it means is that I downloaded (torrent) all the Studio Ghibli movies for nothing...
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You must be very proud. Thanks to people like you Ghibli are going to stop making movies entirely:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/11001081/Studio-Ghibli-may-stop-making-films.html
Of course, Ghibli were one of the more fortunate studios and other people in the industry are in far worse a state. The animators work absurdly long hours for low pay and the studios are permanently on the verge of going out of business. Scum like you always come up with an excuse like, "all the money goes to t
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I think it's more likely that most people just don't particularly care for anime.
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Anime and cartoons are not the same thing. Anime is extremely distinct from other forms of animation. Calling anime anime is completely justified. I've already conclusively proven these facts in this thread, and you have been unable to offer any counter-arguments.
Hey, here's another one little task for you. Explain how these clips are exactly the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
No problem, right?
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Anime and cartoons are not the same thing. Anime is extremely distinct from other forms of animation. Calling anime anime is completely justified. I've already conclusively proven these facts in this thread, and you have been unable to offer any counter-arguments.
By the way, remind me how this cartoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Is exactly the same as this anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Anime is the abbreviated form of the Japanese pronunciation/spelling of animation. The word was coined in Japan, where it often (but not always) is just a synonym for animation.
In the West it's used to mean either all Japanese animation, or the certain kind of TV animation that started being developed in the 60s and now represents virtually all commercial Japanese animation.
Referring to it as anime is justified because anime is a very particular form of animation. It has an instantly recognizable appearance
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I meant to post this in response to another, nearly identical comment just above, but got them mixed up while battling against Slashdot's inane commenting system. But since they are almost identical my response fits here too.
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As I just explained, anime has many unique qualities to it and is a very expansive artform and industry. There isn't anything else like anime in the world of animation. Anime is very different and very distinct from all other animation. If you think animations from other countries need their own names then go ahead and start campaigning for them. I don't care. If French animation has a term of its own like anime, then so what? It's not going to have any effect on me or anime. Whatever.
And as I've also alrea
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I did explain. Right here: "Referring to it as anime is justified because anime is a very particular form of animation. It has an instantly recognizable appearance; it has its own visual language and iconography; it has its own genres, story conventions and character archetypes; it has its own animation techniques, and it's part of a larger and tightly connected industry that encompasses manga, light novels, games and music. And so on." The differences between anime and American animation (which is what alm
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Anime is a juggernaut of the animation world, putting out 40-50 shows every three months (plus movies, direct-to-video releases, and video game animations) sourced from manga, light novels and video games that all together form an aesthetically and narratively coherent and highly interconnected media ecosystem (and no, Marvel et al are nowhere near equivalent to it). American animation is small-time compared to this, and much less coherent. The animation industries of other countries are smaller and less co
Re:About time (Score:5, Informative)
Ghibli might stop producing feature films, but I don't think they've yet confirmed that. The reason why they've been on hiatus has nothing to do with piracy or sales. It's because they've lost Hayao Miyazaki. He retired from feature films in 2013, and he was Ghibli's breadwinner and most famous filmmaker, almost being synonymous with Ghibli itself (Isao Takahata is the other famous filmmaker at Ghibli, and he will probably not make another film either). Pricess Mononoke became the highest grossing film of all time in Japan until it was bested by Titanic, but then Miyazaki came back with Spirited Away which became the new highest grossing film of all time and still remains so (both films also won the Picture of the Year Oscar-equivalent in Japan, i.e. won against even live action films, until animated films were shoved into their own award category). His last film The Wind Rises was the highest grossing of 2014.
Ghibli has apparently had trouble developing new talent, and they've been too invested in Miyazaki. On the other hand, Ghibli was founded by Miyazaki and Takahata (and producer Toshio Suzuki) so they could make the films they wanted to. They probably just don't know where Ghibli should go from here, or if it should go anywhere (as an animation studio).
You're conflating two very different things here: Ghibli and the television anime industry. Ghibli is a mega successful household name with their own museum that brings in a lot of revenue, they own their productions (not always the case for anime studios), and as a film producer they make most of their money at the box office. In terms of home video sales they're in a very different league than TV anime. Late night TV anime relies a lot on disc sales (there's no ad revenue), but there's relatively few people who buy them since they're expensive, there's too many shows on the air, and most people just don't watch late night anime at all. Daytime anime is watched by many more people, but disc sales are not important.
Low wages in the anime industry (at least in the early stages of one's career) go back all the way to the beginning of anime and have nothing to do with piracy. People don't even have to buy anime in Japan as they can just watch it for free on TV. But for the relatively small number of serious fans that isn't enough, so they buy Blu-rays and merchandise. A show can also profit by making people go buy the source material it's based on (e.g. sales for the KonoSuba series of light novels tripled thanks to the recent anime adaptation).
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Blu-rays sales suck BECAUSE BLU RAY FUCKING SUCKS, moron. Digital distribution and on-demand is fucking king now days.
>2016
>using spinning shit slow fragile as fuck optical media
>ISHYGDDT
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Blu-rays, DVD and CDs are still very popular in Japan.
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Grave Of The Fireflies, Arietty, Laputa, Nausicaa, Princess Mononoke and Tales From Earthsea aren't "gay" or "fap crap", they are actually astoundingly great movies.
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American animated movies are very basic. They have simple stories and story-telling, and are almost devoid of the cinematic sensibilities that are taken for granted in both live action and anime. Their animation is very smooth and expensive-looking, but it's also very limited in scope because almost all of it revolves around exaggerated character acting and is shot in a very flat way.
Re: About time (Score:2)
They're not from "East Asia," they are from Japan.
We'll be sure to make a note of that...
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Also with deeper stories, better character development and more message. Arguably better imagery too. Oh, and better music.
License is key (Score:2)
In addition, OpenToonz will also include effects developed by Dwango that utilize its artificial intelligence technology, and a plug-in feature that enables anybody to add original effects to OpenToonz. ...
With the aim of building an environment where research labs and the animated film industry actively cooperate with each other, Dwango hopes to develop a platform via OpenToonz to help the animation industry instantly apply various animation production-related research results acquired in the field.
If it's BSD we'll see animation houses suck up any research output and not contribute much of anything back.
Re: License is key (Score:1)
Even gpl doesn't require you to disclose your changes if you are not redistributing the changes.
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If it's BSD we'll see animation houses suck up any research output and not contribute much of anything back.
If it's BSD then anyone who wants to can re-license it as GPL if they want to.
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You cannot relicense anything unless you are the copyright owner.
With the BSD license, that's immaterial. You start your GPL project and import the BSD code. The BSD license for the imported code must be retained, however you may license the work as a whole under the GPL. Relicensing by any other name...
Clear as a mud. (Score:2)
Dwango will publish and develop an Open Source platform based on Toonz (OpenToonz).
So what are the differences between Toonz and the open source derivative?
"an animation software" --? (Score:2)
Re:"an animation software" --? (Score:4, Informative)
you would put a freeform criminal claim in to a magistrate as "an information".
(source: I'm a lawyer).
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Probably some froggy berk. They do indeed refer to "un software"and shit like that.
All I can say is... (Score:4, Insightful)
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And then watch "Grave of the Fireflies"
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BMO
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GOTF is one of the saddest movies I've ever seen. Which makes it great.
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The director has repeatedly claimed that it's not an anti-war film.
The artist isn't allowed to decide what the viewer learns/experiences from the artwork.
It my opinion GOTF is one of the best anti-war films ever because the director didn't intend to make an anti-war film. The film isn't preachy, as a result, as too many anti-war films are.
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BMO
Confusing reality with fiction (Score:1)
I've been a Japanese anime fan, and I used to think that the philosophy, the background storyline of Japanese anime represents the Japanese culture
I couldn't be more wrong
While anti-war theme does make rounds within the Japanese anime the Japanese society is far from anti-war
Anyone ever stayed in Japan can tell you how war like those rabid right wing Japanese are - and they are the ones which have been controlling the Japanese government 80% of the time since the ending of World War 2
In Japan, the educator
Re: Confusing reality with fiction (Score:2)
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Sorry to bug you but I can't help but notice the replies you've received. I'd speculate that it is ignorance, perhaps willful ignorance, but premised on very Western views. Were I a more paranoid person, I'd speculate that they'd based their beliefs on propaganda.
Japan's culture and history is largely based on a feudal caste system with inherent bias, prejudice, and inherited status. There's speculation about the changes but, at the same time, they've still got people *actively* engaging in ancestral worshi
Re: Confusing reality with fiction (Score:2)
They were forced, at gunpoint, to open up their society.
Funny you should mention that; my dad has one of Commodore Perry's original nautical charts of Sagami Bay (where the U.S. Fleet made the Tokugawa shogunate their bitch)...
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That is AWESOME! Is it marked up? That may actually belong in a museum. That's a chunk of history, right there.
I do wonder how many folks have actually figured out your username and the potential association with Japan? *chuckles* It's kind of like the guy running around with (Base 64 I think) "slashdot sucks" as a username. I don't think anyone's ever noticed. I read usernames way too often. *sighs*
At any rate, that's awesome. I kind of want a pic. ;-) Signed? Any authenticity to actually *prove* it was or
Re: Confusing reality with fiction (Score:2)
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You'd think, with my affection for automotive means, I'd have known that. However, I completely was thinking Type 44 which is a rifle used by Japan during WWII.
Re: Confusing reality with fiction (Score:2)
Anyone ever stayed in Japan can tell you how war like those rabid right wing Japanese are
You are entirely spot-on; I remember how the ultra-nationalists would drive back and forth in front of the Soviet embassy (Ropongi, late 70's), blaring Japanese martial music at top decibel...
For what it's worth, I believe Totoro offers an interesting interpretation of Japanese - particularly Shinto - cultural practices such as belief in tree spirits, etc...
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If you've never heard of Japanese culture and haven't seen "My Neighbor Totoro", do so - you won't regret it.
Poll: what was your first exposure to a Ghibli? (Score:2)
Mine was this: http://www.onlineghibli.com/on... [onlineghibli.com] (Chage & Aska - On Your Mark)
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First was Howl's moving castle: http://www.onlineghibli.com/howls_castle/ [onlineghibli.com]. Finding out later that Howl was from Wales was a bit of a surprise, but I guess they have the world's most castles per capita, so if there's a moving one anywhere...
Although Spirited Away had the edge, for me.
Try github, release date 26 of march (Score:1)