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The End of Gmane? (ingebrigtsen.no) 39

If any of you use mailing list archive Gmane, you would want to start looking at its alternative. Gmane developer Lars Ingebrigtsen announced Thursday that he is thinking about ending the decade-old email-to-news gateway. But first, for those unaware about Gmane, here's is what it does: It allows users to access electronic mailing lists as if they were Usenet newsgroups, and also through a variety of web interfaces. Gmane is an archive; it never expires messages (unless explicitly requested by users). Gmane also supports importing list postings made prior to a list's inclusion on the service.Ingebrigtsen said Gmane machines are under numerous DDoS attacks -- coupled with some other issues -- that have made him wonder whether it is worth the time and effort to keep Gmane ticking. He writes: I'm thinking about ending Gmane, at least as a web site. Perhaps continue running the SMTP-to-NNTP bridge? Perhaps not? I don't want to make 20-30K mailing lists start having bouncing addresses, but I could just funnel all incoming mail to /dev/null, I guess... The nice thing about a mailing list archive (with NNTP and HTTP interfaces) is that it enables software maintainers to say (whenever somebody suggests using Spiffy Collaboration Tool of the Month instead of yucky mailing lists) is "well, just read the stuff on Gmane, then". I feel like I'm letting down a generation here.As Gmane's future remains uncertain, Ingebrigtsen recommends people to have a look at Mail Archive.
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The End of Gmane?

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  • ObPFCHudson (Score:4, Funny)

    by Zephyn ( 415698 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:11PM (#52602867)

    Gmane over, man! Gmane over!

  • by Anonymous Coward

    In an experimental (and futile) project where I attempted to delete all references about myself from the Internet, Lars graciously deleted an article for me. Thanks Lars!

  • NSA (Score:2, Troll)

    Sounds like a NSA honeypot. It never deletes messages? Also, what is SMTP and NNTP? Sounds like spy stuff. We better get rid of this.
  • by BillKaos ( 657870 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:39PM (#52603017) Homepage

    Considering Gmane has been for the most part a one-man effort on his free time, what Lars achieved is truly impressive.

    I am a newsreader user, and I will certainly miss Gmane. If you will miss it too, show your support to Lars!

  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:42PM (#52603041) Homepage

    Anyone DDOSing is a complete worthless asshole.
    Anyone doing this to Gmane is the worlds biggest asshole.

    So shut it down, the current generation of little shits dont deserve the cool stuff we had when the internet was started.

    • Fair call, but remember that the little shits of every generation since the internet got up to the same kind of shit - causing destruction and stress for the sake of impacting the world.
      Everyone grows out of it, but then new kids grow into it.
      Wash, rinse, repeat.
  • ...what the summary tries to say: this was peepaw's twitter at the time, just with more possibilities.

  • Yes, I know it will cost some, but just put the servers behind Cloudflare.
    • FUCK CLOUDFLARE.... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Second or third biggest fingerprinting technique on the internet. And a huge thorn for Tor users, since recaptcha or cloudflare itself could be fingerprinting you across sites. (wayback.archive.org is a really easy way to get around that for static content while also archiving it for future generations!)

  • by tap ( 18562 ) on Friday July 29, 2016 @12:10AM (#52604439) Homepage
    I do lots of Linux development. Often I'll find kernel patch that's not in the mainline kernel yet, or was just recently added, that has some issues with it. With gmane I can browse the original discussion threads about the patch, import them into evolution, and then reply to one of the messages. And get the proper in-reply-to headers on my email, cc the proper groups and people, etc. I don't have the original thread in my inbox because I'm not subscribed to 200 different lists that I save all the messages from. But gmane is.

    None of the other list archives (which aren't as good as gmane anyway) allow you do this.

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