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Intel's Joule is Its Most Powerful Dev Kit Yet (engadget.com) 55

Devindra Hardawar, writing for Engadget: We've seen plenty of unique dev kits from Intel, including the SD card-sized Edison, but not one as powerful as this. Intel announced Joule today, a tiny maker board that will allow developers to test RealSense-powered concepts and, hopefully, bring the to the market faster than before. The company says the tiny, low-powered Joule would be ideal for testing concepts in robotics, AR, VR, industrial IoT and a slew of other industries. And it also looks like it could be an interesting way for students to dabble in RealSense's depth-sensing technology in schools. There will be two Joule kits to choose from: the 550x, which includes a 1.5GHz quad-core Atom T5500 processor, 3GB of RAM and 8GB of storage; and the 570x, which packs in a 1.7Ghz quad-core Atom T5700 CPU (with burst speeds up to 2.4GHz), 4GB of RAM and 16GB of storage. Both models include "laptop-class" 802.11AC wireless, Intel graphics with 4K capture and display support, and a Linux-based OS.
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Intel's Joule is Its Most Powerful Dev Kit Yet

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  • Pffff (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheRealMindChild ( 743925 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @03:53PM (#52715755) Homepage Journal
    $369. No.
  • $369 (Score:5, Informative)

    by gmack ( 197796 ) <gmack AT innerfire DOT net> on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @03:54PM (#52715767) Homepage Journal
    I'm not sure Intel quite understands the concept.
    • In this day and age, when 128gb worth of mmc is 30 bucks, 16gb of storage is a travesty.
      • The size of the production run has a lot to do with the pricing.

    • That's probably three times the cost of the actual computers people are using to develop for the Rasperry Pi...

    • Can you recommend an equivalent ARM based board?

    • by myrdos2 ( 989497 )

      See, it works like this:

      Step 1: Intel maker board for $369.

      Step 2: Bring the _____ to the market faster than before.

      Step 3: Profit!

    • Not sure you quite understand their market.

      Look at what DIN mounted automation controls cost.

  • have never bought a dev kit in the real world before, and believe me there's a world of difference between these things and a Raspberry Pi.

    $369? Intel priced these to move.

  • by sbaker ( 47485 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @05:03PM (#52716281) Homepage

    At first sight, it looks like this is a horribly overpriced tiny-Linux gizmo - but what I think people here are missing is the important fact that it includes an integrated RealSense 3D camera...over 300 bucks for a $10 computer is a lot - but the RealSense 3D camera was selling for over $100 a few months ago - and that was a gigantic thing compared to this.

    So, while I think they should be selling this for $50 to get more people interested in using it - I don't think it's surprising that they're asking so much as a "dev kit". The original RealSense dev kit (just the camera) was (IIRC) $200 - but included support from Intel engineers for serious developers.

    • by cdrudge ( 68377 )

      but what I think people here are missing is the important fact that it includes an integrated RealSense 3D camera

      All the announcements and spec sheets say that they "Support for the Intel RealSense cameras and libraries", not that it has a RealSense 3D camera built in. Where did you see that the camera was built in, that as you say, we're missing?

      • by sbaker ( 47485 )

        Oh - well if that's the case then it makes no sense. The RealSense camera dev kit interfaces via USB...why wouldn't you just use a RaspPi Zero for $9 rather than the $300+ Intel board? Plus, RealSense is only available for developers - they make you sign an agreement not to use it in any actual product!

    • by Megane ( 129182 )

      In other words, it's really a devkit for the camera, not the CPU. But they can't miss the opportunity for another chance at forcing x86 into the embedded space.

      Intel still hasn't gotten the clue that most people don't care about or don't even want to go near x86 (or x64) for embedded computing. It's a hammer looking for a nail. The only thing x86 ever had going for it was the momentum of decades of MS-DOS and its follow-ons. It's a really mediocre architecture full of bodges on top of warts, and it would h

  • I always love it when I can bring the to the market quicker than ever before!
  • I'd say the Edison was credit card sized. And (relatively) expensive-sized, like this new one.
  • by ndykman ( 659315 ) on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @05:32PM (#52716481)

    Okay, they cancel Broxton, but then they release this. So, smartphones and tablets are out, but this is a great prototyping board for industrial IoT and other smart devices? Look, if they don't have a story on cellular network capabilities, nobody is going to care, and if they do have a story there, then they didn't really leave those markets. Does the Surface Phone crawl along, zombie like, after all? At any rate, Intel has a lot of work to do in the embedded space. A lot.

  • This is why Intel is becoming irrelevant in the embedded space.

    While I am sure that this is not meant as a raspberry pi killer, the lack of a low cost Intel platform means that all cool interesting stuff is being done on ARM.

    Not only that but the next generation of embedded engineers will grow up knowing about the ARM architecture, and Intel will become increasingly marginalized.

    If I was Intel I would produce a $30 board, put on a version of vxworks linux (also Intel owned) and give them out to schools at

    • It actually does remind me of those PC expansion cards with mainframe CPUs on them. "Pay us a lot of money for the new thing whose largest benefit is just binary compatibility with the old thing".
  • Back when Edison hit the market, I got seriously excited and started developing things that weren't possible without the CPU muscle and low power consumption that it offers. Then I ran into the sucking quagmire that is Intel's software support.

    Broken drivers. Broken build environments. Undocumented pin muxing. Undocumented power management. Undocumented everything. Proprietary, unavailable tools needed to reconfigure things. They took a half-finished, 30% functional board support package, excreted

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