SQLite Adopts 'Monastic' Code of Conduct (sqlite.org) 653
Having been encouraged by clients to adopt a written code of conduct, the SQLite developers elected to govern their interactions with each other, with their clients, and with the larger SQLite user community in accordance with the "instruments of good works" from chapter 4 of The Rule of St. Benedict. This code of conduct has proven its mettle in thousands of diverse communities for over 1,500 years, and has served as a baseline for many civil law codes since the time of Charlemagne.
Not everyone has found SQLite's attempt informative or funny (though many did). A developer wrote, for instance, "So is the SQLite CoC thing a joke or not? If it's not a joke, f*ck this. If it is a joke, that's even worse. Your CoC should be taken seriously." A security researcher, chimed in, "This sort of stunt will make actual code of conduct discussions harder. It's not funny, helpful, or wise."
Why even adopt it (Score:3, Insightful)
If you do not know how to act like a responsible adult, perhaps you should try harder. It is your choice, but do not expect others to play along with your childish and rogue behavior. Correct the behavior or get locked out. But no one needs a silly code of conduct - this is like mission statements of the 80s and 90s. Largely forgotten and rarely achieved.
Re:Why even adopt it (Score:5, Insightful)
that's the point of the sarcastic SQLite CoC.
CoC's could also prevent projects from working together, like Software Licenses also do.
Project ABC adopts the Monastic/10 commandments style CoC.
Project XYZ adopts a SJW/LGB/LGBT/LGBTQ/LGBTTQQIAAP friendly CoC.
Now these two projects cannot work together.
Now like with sports, software developers arbitrarily become split along party lines.
WTF does a CoC have to do with software?
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Agreed and anyone who is trying to emphasis a CoC beyond "the mods can boot obvious trolls and spammers" in software development projects is by definition a political extremist.
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Even if he'd been technically correct it would have been nothing but pointless pedantry. The common mistakes in grammar and usage are nothing but a del
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If you do not know how to act like a responsible adult, perhaps you should try harder. It is your choice, but do not expect others to play along with your childish and rogue behavior. Correct the behavior or get locked out. But no one needs a silly code of conduct - this is like mission statements of the 80s and 90s. Largely forgotten and rarely achieved.
Dang- should've posted that with an account. Let me repost it so everyone else can see it, because it's pretty damned solid...
Re:Why even adopt it (Score:5, Informative)
The link to the CoC is in the summary, but here it is again: SQLite Code of Conduct [sqlite.org].
It is OBVIOUSLY a joke. I don't find it particularly funny, but I don't see any harm either. It is clearly ridiculing some of the over-the-top CoCs, and in many cases that ridicule is well deserved.
The people taking this seriously need to eat more fish or, if they are vegan, some omega-3 supplements, to help their brains work better.
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It is OBVIOUSLY a joke.
I thought so too on a first quick reading, and especially, on reading the horrible article summary. The author's sincerity is clear here. [twitter.com] It isn't a joke, it is just a mistake.
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I don't think he is sincere.
As sincere as any christian. You read his twitter byline, right?
Actually its a decent list for conduct (Score:5, Insightful)
2 Love your neighbor as yourself. [ex test before commit]
3 You are not to kill, [ex crash your customers]
4 not to commit adultery; [ex don't f with your users]
5 you are not to steal [ex respect the software license]
6 nor to covet; [ex don't add a feature just because its in the commercial app you are cloning]
7 you are not to bear false witness. [ex admit it came from source forge]
8 You must honor everyone, [ex conform to the coding standard]
9 and never do to another what you do not want done to yourself. [ex replace tabs/spaces]
11 discipline your body; [ex proper ergonomics[
12 do not pamper yourself, [ex sorry, you only get one 4K monitor]
13 but love fasting. [ex sorry, only a midrange GPU]
14 You must relieve the lot of the poor, [ex contribute to open source]
15 clothe the naked, [ex comment your code]
16 visit the sick, [ex fix your bugs rather than just make them scrum tasks]
17 and bury the dead. [ex remove the dead code]
18 Go to help the troubled [ex when someone is stuck on a bug be their second set of eyes]
19 and console the sorrowing. [ex let the fanboy's PC dual boot]
20 Your way of acting should be different from the world’s way; [ex cross platform is not all the MS windows variations]
22 You are not to act in anger [ex sorry, you can't tell customers to RTFM]
23 or nurse a grudge. [ex desktop Linux, get over it]
24 Rid your heart of all deceit. [ex stop telling people they will like emacs after a little while]
25 Never give a hollow greeting of peace [ex "why yes my core code will be cross platforms"]
26 or turn away when someone needs your love. [ex Target the Android platform too]
27 Bind yourself to no oath lest it prove false, [ex "I swear I tested all my changes"]
28 but speak the truth with heart and tongue. [ex run the regression test]
29 Do not repay one bad turn with another. [ex recommend perl because someone recommended it to you]
30 Do not injure anyone, but bear injuries patiently. [ex re-run all tests after the merge but before the commit]
31 Love your enemies. [ex Target the Windows platform too]
32 If people curse you, do not curse them back but bless them instead. [ex No flamewars on the dev thread]
33 Endure persecution for the sake of justice. [ex drink the company coffee rather than leave for starbucks when getting behind on things]
34 You must not be proud, [ex fix bugs outside your niche in the codebase]
35 nor be given to wine. [ex just dual boot or run a real emulator]
36 Refrain from too much eating [ex use CPU and RAM responsibly]
37 or sleeping, [ex don't make your code slow so you can use the currently hyped programming language]
38 and from laziness. [ex don't try to apply your favorite programming language to everything]
39 Do not grumble [ex Don't bitch in comments]
40 or speak ill of others. [ex Your preferred operating system is not always the best choice]
43 Be certain that the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge. [ex commit changes only under your login]
44 Live in fear of judgment day [ex launch day
45 and have a great horror of hell. [ex developer will have to do customer support immediately after launch]
Actually its a decent list for conduct [cont] (Score:5, Funny)
Desire eternal life with all the passion of the spirit. [ex. your former peers don't refactor you code away]
Keep death daily before your eyes. [ex. you refactor your own code]
Keep constant guard over the actions of your life. [ex. test your functions inputs for validity]
Know for certain that God sees you everywhere. [ex. source control will out you]
Disclose wrongful thoughts to your spiritual mentor. [ex. peer review]
Guard your tongue against evil and depraved speech. [ex. use readable names]
Do not love much talking. [ex. readable names are not necessarily complete sentences]
Speak no useless words or words that move to laughter. [ex. use libs, don't roll you own]
Do not love much or boisterous laughter. [ex. no, you shouldn't do that in javascript]
Listen willingly to holy reading. [ex. read your Knuth and Stroustrup]
Fulfill not the desires of the flesh; hate your own will. [ex. customers choose the target OS, not the devs]
Love chastity. [ex. you might as well get used to it]
Hate no one. [ex. they may one day work at the company you want to join]
Be not jealous, nor harbor envy. [ex. when the machine for the new hire arrives, don't swap out the GPU and HD with yours]
Do not love quarreling. [ex. Its OK if they want to run Windows]
Shun arrogance. [ex. tabs are wrong, get over it, use spaces]
Respect your seniors. [ex. college did not make you a great programmer]
Love your juniors. [ex. after all, they are doing all those tasks you despise]
Make peace with your adversary before the sun sets. [ex. the current build must be working in the morning]
Re: Why even adopt it (Score:5, Funny)
Why is it a joke? Why do other open source communities condone murder by not explicitly disallowing it in their CoCs?
Someone wants to work on ReiserFS?
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Quite simple: There's a lot of folks out there, unfortunately, who like to be cunts and then use the "But what's the rule against being a cunt?" canard when called out on it. These are the people who don't know how to fucking behave around their peers, much less their co-workers and colleagues and frankly, are the ones who ruin everything for everyone else. Treat people the way you want to be treated and life would be a much better place. Sounds great. Reading through the comments here is proof-positive tha
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this is not off topic. It is a perfect example of the problem with CoCs, how one person's perfectly reasonable attitude is another person's cunt.
It was not a "perfectly reasonable attitude", it was a clear cut ad hominem.
Re:Why even adopt it (Score:5, Insightful)
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Luckily there's no such thing as reverse racism or reverse sexism, so if someone is openly anti-male, anti-asian or anti-white then you can criticise their racism and sexism without fear of falling foul of the CoC.
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If you do not know how to act like a responsible adult, perhaps you should try harder.
Sounds like a perfect Code of Conflict to me.
Re: Why even adopt it (Score:5, Interesting)
Re: Why even adopt it (Score:5, Insightful)
So is the SQLite CoC thing a joke or not?
This is actually Poe's Law [rationalwiki.org] in real life: "Without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism". The crap around CoC's has become so crazy that it's indistinguishable from parody.
Re: Why even adopt it (Score:5, Insightful)
Extremism is very much worth mocking, though. Because the ensuing meltdown is rewarding, has high entertainment value, and might destroy a few fucking ideologue nuts.
That's awesome (Score:2, Insightful)
Good job! Don't let the SJW's push you around.
But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Interesting)
People are objecting, but is it a bad code of conduct? I can't find the text, but being monastic I'm guessing it values service to the community and forbids sexual harassment.
Seems like it might be a good choice for a CoC.
The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Insightful)
https://twitter.com/brionv/sta... [twitter.com]
SJWs cannot abide mockery because it is a threat to their own self anointed moral authority.
Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Funny)
SJWs cannot abide mockery because it is a threat to their own self anointed moral authority.
A religious war? In a tech community? Never heard of such a thing, which is why Captain Kirk using EMACS would be way better than Picard using VI!
Or is the complaint that the monks indented with tabs?
Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Funny)
I mean Spock would use Vi, the guy goes around flashing V's with his hand for christ's sake.
Wrong (Score:5, Funny)
That is what happens to your fingers naturally after a lifetime of reaching for the Meta key in combination with other keystrokes.
He literally cannot put the fingers together anymore.
Emacs master.
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That's why I map meta to left-win; the default setting to overload the alt key is just too much of a stretch.
You can also reduce finger strain by mapping caps-lock to super.
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A religious war? In a tech community? Never heard of such a thing, which is why Captain Kirk using EMACS would be way better than Picard using VI!
Or is the complaint that the monks indented with tabs?
Darth Vader proudly uses pico. That is all.
Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Insightful)
ANY ideology taken to an extreme is (idiotic) fundamentalism.
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cult, noun, any group of people who believe their (self appointed) way is the ONLY way.
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Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Insightful)
Unlike some far right people might define, SJW is used by most people meaning a far left fanatic individual that will try by any means to force people to follow their increasingly absurd laws.
You can't have a "good SJW", because by definition is someone with quite evil or warped intents.
But it's quite easy to find the sane people in this mess. Just find the person being called a nazi by the far left and a SJW by the far right.
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Thank you for posting this. Notice the bright white knight taking a joke about a centuries old text at face value. Really the kind of help you need in the Open Source community. Aren't you terrified this kind of genius could feel unwelcomed as a Linux kernel contributor ?
That was hilarous.
Re:The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:4, Funny)
SJWs cannot abide mockery because it is a threat to their own self anointed moral authority.
Q: How many SJWs does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!
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SJWs cannot abide mockery because it is a threat to their own self anointed moral authority.
Q: How many SJWs does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!
Does the lightbulb consent to the change? HOW DO YOU KNOW IT IDENTIFIES AS A LIGHTBULB??!
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SJW is the abusive narcissist's derogatory term for "person stands on the side of decency."
SJW is a mental disease.
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Doesn't your post exhibit essentially all the attributes that you ascribe to the mythical "SJW"?
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Well, he didn't scream, he only blathered. So he didn't quite get all of them.
Re: The SJWs Are Already Attacking The Project (Score:5, Insightful)
No. He didn't try to use the coercive power of big capital and/or the state to force you to obey a bunch of rules he has no intention of obeying himself.
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People are objecting, but is it a bad code of conduct?
It requires celibacy, so is in effect a no-op.
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People are objecting, but is it a bad code of conduct?
It requires celibacy, so is in effect a no-op.
What difference would that make in a coding project?
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:4, Informative)
It's not bad. Rule 69 (ironic) is to "love the juniors". Which is a little offputting in the modern Catholic Church. But it's right after "respect the seniors" and is clearly trying to set up a mentor/mentee situation.
That said, there's a lot of pro-catholic theology in it that would be pretty offensive if it was explicitly added to a CoC. And it's anti-sexual harassment policy is "love chastity".
It's a really short read. 72 commands that are usually a sentence fragment.
A public domain religious text? Let me help [gutenberg.org] with that. Note, that's a link directly to chapter 4.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files... [gutenberg.org]
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St. Benedict’s Rule for Monasteries is a pretty interesting read as a study on how to form cooperative organizations. It's very heavily drench in medieval European culture, so it's thoroughly and unashamedly Christian.
Worthwhile reading if you think understanding medieval institution is interesting, or to cherry-pick ideas if when you're trying to put together an informal group that needs some structure to stay on the right track.
I think it would have been very easy to edit down the core ideas into a
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I think it would have been very easy to edit down the core ideas into a purely secular and modern code, even if one chose to structure it similar to the original.
Maybe, but that would be missing the point. It's not ment to be a useful CoC for the SQLite project. It's a troll on the level of "it's okay to be white", except moreso: How the hell can you disagree with a 1500 year old dyed in the wool proven CoC? Well? Popcorn and watch the SJWs try.
Now to see if the project survives this hijink, which it still very much might not. I don't particularly like SQLite (and dislike its "we must have this!"-status with the likes of mozilla) so I have no strong attachment to th
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Interesting)
Sqlite is one of the most widely distributed and used libraries in all of software. It has larger penetration than Linux, is more ubiquitous than zlib.
I think they have the karma to burn on this.
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I clicked on the link and am wondering why Brion Vibber has a profile picture on twitter that looks like he's taking a difficult bowel movement.
Maybe it comes with the personality.
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Exactly, this is hardly news, but another example of the anti-SJW folks becoming seriously obnoxious. The people foaming their mouths here apparently haven't read the actual license agreement of SQLite:
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I was going to cut and paste them, but I couldn't get past the filter.
So here is a link. [gutenberg.org]
If you cut the overt religious and denial of wordly pleasures out of it, it would make a decent CoC.
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Informative)
You can find the Rule of St Benedict here [gutenberg.org], it is not specifically monastic, but rather outlines general Christian ethical ideals of piety, humility, charity, forbearance and chastity.
You could probably omit piety and chastity, but a lot of the rules do make sense for any community: not to nurse a grudge; to bear wrongs and insults patiently, don't be a grumbler or detractor, settle personal disputes quickly and peacefully, avoid mocking or depraved speech, and to keep a sense of perspective (see rule #47, chapter 4).
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Insightful)
You could probably omit piety and chastity
I dunno, seems like a pretty firm way to shut down sexual harassment. "Nothing we do here has anything to do with sex, so don't go there".
See you in Kangaroo Court (Score:5, Insightful)
Chastity is the only honest way to go. However, you'll notice that requirement seriously interferes with recruitment in the modern world.
All similar codes I've seen pretend to be something else by forbidding unwanted sexual advances. "Unwanted" sounds oh-so reasonable, but the problem is: how do you know if an advance is unwanted if you don't try your luck? Communication between people is fragile at best. If you advance is accepted, then it was desired. Otherwise, you're a posteriori guilty of an unwanted advance and are a creep because You Should Have Known Better.
Ergo, the only sane solution is to say that all advances are unwanted in that community, which is called chastity.
Either the community is a place where one of the side-benefits is the possibility of romance/sex and where related behavior is sanctioned, or sex and romance are 100% off the menu.
Don't try to get laid on the project mailing list (Score:4, Insightful)
Seen as guidelines for interaction *within the project* , chastity makes perfect sense to me. In other words "don't try to get laid on the project mailing list, hitting on another developer".
That's not the purpose of project communications, and nerds are notoriously awkward at flirting, often saying the wrong thing. To avoid saying the wrong thing while trying to hook up with the QA lady, just don't try to hook up with anyone on the project.
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> but a lot of the rules do make sense for any community:
And a lot don't.
No humor? Wow, talk about sticks in the mud.
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Insightful)
> Seems like it might be a good choice for a CoC.
The other and more sinister reason is the massive attempt by SJWs to ram the toxic 'contributors covenant' by the vile Coraline Ada Ehmke and others is the creation of SJW thought police organization for all open source projects who are dumb enough to adopt it.
Essentially SJWs getting paid to sit at home combing through open source projects searching for cases of wrongthink and working behind the scenes in ideological star chambers to kick their ideological enemies.
Projects creating their own sane CoCs or even just mocking the push to adopt these toxic SJW CoCs infuriates them. They are trying to get every single open source project to adopt a single universal SJW CoC and place every project under ideological thought police.
Think this is all hyperbole, just look at the sickening attack by Coraline Ada Ehmke against Ruby's creator when he refused to bend the knee:
https://twitter.com/coralinead... [twitter.com]
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Oh look, it is the same boring SJW AC troll who never manages to get any upvotes.
For the non dumb SJW trolls who want to see the SJW organization referred to just look up Coraline Ada Ehmke Code of Conduct organization or the something similar. I don't really have the stomach to search through such a vile person's Coraline Ada Ehmke's social media timelines right now for a link to it.
Should be a shock to no one. It is the dream job of every SJW to sit at home all day tone/thought policing people on the inte
Re: Nothing wrong with Contributor Covenant (Score:3, Informative)
Check out the Twitter feed of that Coraline person. It's full of stuff that is prohibited by the code of conduct she (it?) promotes:
The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances
Trolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks
Public or private harassment
So that person is a hypocrite, definitely NOT an inclusive person, and definitely NOT the example anyone should follow.
All the things in that code of conduct are either common sense and are alre
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Who's going to bell the cat? She's already been called out for advocating physically assaulting a journalist who interviewed someone she labels a "Nazi", and it won't take much research to learn that she's incapable of being civil to other people. Read for example her story of her short tenure at GitHub. Or start with her drive by shooting of the Opal project.
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Ada Initiative [ibiblio.org]. See also Coraline's project to set up a CoC enforcement organization to take that burden off FOSS projects.
Note how many SJWs are trust fund babies, plus the paid shills of Share Blue etc.
Coraline herself; if you can't see that, you're not living in the same reality as those wh
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:5, Interesting)
Overall no.The issue I think most people have is the Christian hierarchy that is enforced within the organization. They fear that it will force everyone who touches SQLite will have to take a religious stance they don't agree with. That CoC is just peace, pray, and work hard for what you believe. If they stay with this CoC I look for Google and the Mozillia foundation to remove SQLite for their browsers in the next major update just for political, not practical reasons.
Seems perfect to me (Score:2)
That CoC is just peace, pray, and work hard for what you believe.
Far from being a joke, has there ever been a more appropriate philosophy for coding? I don't think so. It's not like it says who to pray TO.
And the peace part is something everyone needs these days to calm down a little.
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Well, it is overtly Christian, but if you look past there there's lots of good stuff. "Not to swear": looking at you Linus. "Not to return evil for evil": no flame wars. Respect those more senior, but welcome those more junior.
The best though is: "Not to desire to be called holy before one is; but to be holy first, that one may be truly so called", i.e., virtue signalling is forbidden.
Yes exactly (Score:2)
"Not to return evil for evil": no flame wars
This also meshes really well with a recent article Jeff Atwood wrote on healthy communities, with the rule "No Grudges" [codinghorror.com]
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That seems to be a big part of this CoC:
23 Not to foster a desire for revenge.
25 Not to make a false peace.
29 Not to return evil for evil
30 To do no injury, yea, even patiently to bear the injury done us.
31 To love one's enemies
32 Not to curse them that curse us, but rather to bless them.
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Examples:
1. First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength.
10. Deny oneself in order to follow Christ.
21. Prefer nothing more than the love of Christ.
41. Put your hope in God.
42. Attribute to God, and not to
You're reading it wrong (Score:3)
44. Fear the Day of Judgment.
Obviously those references terms of a CoC are metaphorical, as you can arbitrarily apply them to the belief system you hold.
However you are wrong about 44, it has no reference to God and is obviously referring to pull request reviews. 45 is about over-long standups.
Re:But is it a bad code? (Score:4, Informative)
The text is on SQLite's website: Code of Conduct [sqlite.org].
It's actually a pretty decent code of conduct; if you ask only that developers govern their interactions with others according to the code.
I am guessing the objections are that the code contains religions admonitions such as:
Rule 1. First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength.
A majority of developers will likely be of some religion that can identify with that statement; However, the statement could disturb
atheists who might participate in the project, when the CoC references particular individual practices they disagree with.
On the other hand it's also true that the code doesn't mention any consequences for failing to follow specific rules on individual conduct. .... the SQLite developers elected to govern their interactions with each other, with their clients, and with the larger SQLite user community in accordance with the "instruments of good works" .... This rule is strict, and none are able to comply perfectly. Grace is readily granted for minor transgressions. All are encouraged to follow this rule closely, as in so doing they may expect to live happier, healthier, and more productive lives. The entire rule is good and wholesome, and yet we make no enforcement of the more introspective aspects. ....
it particularly says:
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You sound angry. Projecting much?
I am amused by absurdity.
Now, after looking at what the author has to say about it, I realize it's not a joke, or a mockery, it is in fact a religious screed put forth in all seriousness. And entirely out of place, if he needs to give a sermon then he should do it in church, or write a song or something.
Either he's mocking you or you are mocking his religious beliefs. Either way you lose.
Now I can see that the author, the original developer, is sincere enough. Just made a mistake. I for one want to be on the side of defusing this, what about you? The last thing I want is to be part of an angry mob running this guy out of his own project.
LOL classic SJW...
REPENT NOW or our mob will ATTTTAAACCKKK!!
If someone tells you that a joke is not funny (Score:5, Insightful)
that tells you more about them than about the joke. Congrats to SQLite. That's one project that "gets it". Anyone who thinks that "this sort of stunt will make actual code of conduct discussions harder" hasn't even got the message (which coincidentally is one data point in favor of using more direct language...)
A useful shibboleth (Score:5, Insightful)
So is the SQLite CoC thing a joke or not? If it's not a joke, f*ck this. If it is a joke, that's even worse.
Here's the type of person that is likely to go out of their way to take umbrage over something relatively minor. The kind of person who's happy to shove a CoC down your throat as long its theirs, but will scream about having to follow some other set of rules that they don't like.
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Re:A useful shibboleth (Score:5, Informative)
The word itself comes from an old Hebrew word that has an unrelated meaning to the present use, which springs from a Biblical story, where the word "Shibboleth" was used as a modern shibboleth because it was pronounced differently between two warring groups and could be used to tell if a person was a foe attempting to pass themselves off as a friend. There are plenty of other examples of this being employed throughout history. For example, if you're traveling in warn torn parts of the Middle East, you may want to memorize a few passages from the Quran as that's a common shibboleth used by militants to determine if someone is actually a Muslim since it's often impossible to know based on appearance alone.
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The origins of "shibboleth" are Biblical and go back to Old Testament times. To make a long story short, enemy foreigners couldn't pronounce "sh", so anyone stopped at the border was asked to say "shibboleth". People who pronounced it "sibboleth" were put to death as an enemy spies. Since then, a shibboleth has come to simply mean anything that can be used to distinguish between two groups of people, be it a code word, belief, or practice.
And, as always, there's an obligatory xkcd on the issue: https://www. [xkcd.com]
Re:A useful shibboleth (Score:5, Insightful)
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the kind of people that need a CoC are the kind of people no one wants to work with.
Amen to that!
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Boom!
Re:A useful shibboleth (Score:5, Insightful)
I think this is exactly the thing to do (Score:4, Insightful)
Wikipedia says about Chapter 4 "These are essentially the duties of every Christian and are mainly Scriptural either in letter or in spirit." This nicely points out that a CoC has nothing to do with the actual work being done and is all about some people wanting to control the forms of interaction allowed, impose the duty to follow some meaningless rituals, universally to the detriment of the project.
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A tech project like a database?
"Move fast and break things" doesn't work for a whole lot of the kinds of data people store in them. (Does actually work for a lot of modern spying on people to sell advertising functions, though, like location data.) GitHub's customers have not been having a boring time in the last little while....
CoCs are religious documents (Score:5, Insightful)
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Extra points for using "harridans" in a sentence.
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Of course they are. That's why it's a kind of blasphemy to mock them.
SJWs are religious.
Probably. But go to work for a company that is run by a bunch of bible-thumpers. The atmosphere is just as toxic. And they have their self-appointed morality police. Who don't do a lick of work but run around and police everyone elses' behavior.
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Decades ago, I came in on a Saturday.
Found the office manager (too much makeup, 'Capital Christian Center' big ol church in Sacramento) getting pounded by one of the regional sales managers on the 'meating' room table.
I guessed the 'conversion therapy' for her _flaming_ interior decorator husband wasn't going well.
I ducked back out, thanking dog that I'd heard before I got a good look, I'd have gone blind for sure.
If I'd had a phone with camera, I'd have been selling raises to her 'reports'.
Since
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SJWs are religious. Marxism is their religion
Well, considering that Marx said that [christian] religion is the ideal partner for capitalism and that the goal of philosophy is to overcome all heavenly and earthly gods*.... you may want to give your own definition of religion to support that. I mean, they are obviously zealots, but looks like you don't need religion for that.
* roughly translated from https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Monastic (Score:3)
When I think of monks, I think about
Vows of Chastity
Vows of Silence
Bread Making
Beer Brewing
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Chastity, yes. The other three, no. Not in the chapter. Although there is an admonishment against "useless words"
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Well... think of self organizing groups working together for their common good.
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Re:BRILLIANT (Score:5, Funny)
Code Of Conduct (Score:2)
Code_of_COMMANDMENTS (Score:5, Funny)
Why not use something a little more updated:
I am the sysadmin, thy savior, which have brought thee out of th elands of paper, out of the house of bondage
1. Thou shalt have no other sysadmin before me
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any Gaben image
3. Thou shalt not email thy sysadmin in vain
4. Remember it's the weekend, keep it holy, don't call
5. Honour thy manager and thy HR
6. Thou shalt not kill -9
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery on company computers
8. Thou shalt not torrent
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness on thine tickets
10. Thou shalt not covet they neighbors hardware, nor his software, nor anything else.
Ye shall erect these memos which I command thee upon mount cubicle
Strange game (Score:4, Insightful)
The only winning move is not to play
Good (Score:3)
This is not (very) new (Score:5, Informative)
This code of conduct has been up for quite a while https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]. So clearly, all who were actually contributing to SQLite did not have a problem with it, as they would undoubtedly caused a stink at the time if they did.
Maybe this is a good way to weed out those who don't really want to contribute and should be ignored.
Besides, it is clear that is is partly tongue in cheek and partly just providing suggestions for how to build a community, particularly the bits like:
9. Do not do to another what you would not have done to yourself.
22. Do not give way to anger.
23. Do not nurse a grudge.
24. Do not entertain deceit in your heart.
29. Do not return evil for evil.
66. Do not love quarreling.
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So clearly, all who were actually contributing to SQLite did not have a problem with it, as they would undoubtedly caused a stink at the time if they did.
The project head added this CoC with unanimous approval [nabble.com] from current contributors.
Secondly, I view a CoC not so much as a legal code as a statement of the values of the core developers. All current committers to SQLite approved the CoC before I published it. A single dissent would have been sufficient for me to change course. Taking down the current CoC would not change our values, it would merely obscure them. Isn't it better to be open and honest about who we are?
Tools for good work indeed (Score:3)
Been a while since I read this last. On this reading, this struck me as relevant in the slacktivist era:
"61. Do not wish to be called holy before one is holy; but first to be holy, that you may be truly so called."
As with some other provisions of this Rule, and as with that other defining work at the other end of the Middle Ages, The Imitation of Christ, great emphasis was placed on avoiding self-righteousness and on discovering your own faults rather than expecting to be praised for discovering the faults of others.
Perhaps in today's world it's seen as offensive to adopt a code of conduct that tells you to respect all people (a clearer translation of #8 from the Latin) and hate no one (#64) rather than defining special protected classes. Perhaps it's seen as offensive to have a code that says to make peace with one's adversary before the sun sets in the era when we're being encouraged to protect certain viewpoints while harassing those perceived to be on the "wrong side" and ensuring "they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."
More ethical thought went into the composition of this code 1500 years ago than into the codes of today, that's for certain.
Re:Be not Lazy? (Score:4, Funny)
I specialize in automation. I do a lot of work trying to be lazy!
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The entire point of these SJW attacks on open source projects is to use weaponized CoCs to hijack the project and kick and publicly humiliate their ideological enemies.
No doubt devised by the MJ12 and the gay frog lizard-people that rule from the center of the earth.