A Crowd-Funded Startup Is Making a Coffee Cup That Can Be Eaten (bloomberg.com) 141
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: A trash can overflowing with disposable drink cups is an all-too-familiar sight outside any high-traffic cafe or fast-food joint. It was during a lunch-time walk in Melbourne that colleagues Aniyo Rahebi and Catherine Hutchins passed by several such eyesores and decided to combat the piles of waste. A few months later they arrived at an idea: a to-go cup that can be eaten. After hundreds of hours in the kitchen refining their concept, the duo took it to market. Their startup Good-Edi now offers an edible, biodegradable, plastic-free alternative to the standard polyethylene-lined paper cups used for coffee that largely end up in landfills or gets incinerated.
The company raised about $98,000 through a crowd-funding site in 2021, and its baking team currently produces about 500 cups a day for clients across Australia, including coffee shops, roasteries and concert venues, from a facility in a suburb of Melbourne. Good-Edi aims to boost output and expand sales internationally this year. The world goes through more than 250 billion plastic-lined paper drink cups every year, according to the United Nations Environment Programme. Only about 1% of those cups are recycled. Good-Edi says about 2.7 million disposable cups find their way to landfills each day in Australia.
Good-Edi's product works for both for hot drinks like coffee and tea as well as cold drinks. After about 250 recipe adjustments, the founders settled on a blend of rye flour, wheat bran, oat bran, sugar, salt, coconut oil and water. They say their container stays crispy holding a hot cup of joe for about 40 minutes and won't leak a cold beverage for about eight hours. For Hutchins and Rahebi, who have a combined 20 years experience in the food-processing and packaging sectors, Good-Edi is still a side hustle. They are banking on shifting consumer sentiment and a beverage industry under pressure to offer more sustainable to-go options to drive sales and compensate for the fact that their containers can increase the cost of a cup of takeaway coffee by A$1. "Will coffee drinkers be keen to gobble up the company's innovation, if it doesn't feel like a treat?" asks a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter that says the cup tasted like an unsweetened wheat biscuit.
The company raised about $98,000 through a crowd-funding site in 2021, and its baking team currently produces about 500 cups a day for clients across Australia, including coffee shops, roasteries and concert venues, from a facility in a suburb of Melbourne. Good-Edi aims to boost output and expand sales internationally this year. The world goes through more than 250 billion plastic-lined paper drink cups every year, according to the United Nations Environment Programme. Only about 1% of those cups are recycled. Good-Edi says about 2.7 million disposable cups find their way to landfills each day in Australia.
Good-Edi's product works for both for hot drinks like coffee and tea as well as cold drinks. After about 250 recipe adjustments, the founders settled on a blend of rye flour, wheat bran, oat bran, sugar, salt, coconut oil and water. They say their container stays crispy holding a hot cup of joe for about 40 minutes and won't leak a cold beverage for about eight hours. For Hutchins and Rahebi, who have a combined 20 years experience in the food-processing and packaging sectors, Good-Edi is still a side hustle. They are banking on shifting consumer sentiment and a beverage industry under pressure to offer more sustainable to-go options to drive sales and compensate for the fact that their containers can increase the cost of a cup of takeaway coffee by A$1. "Will coffee drinkers be keen to gobble up the company's innovation, if it doesn't feel like a treat?" asks a Bloomberg Businessweek reporter that says the cup tasted like an unsweetened wheat biscuit.
and what happens after 40 minutes? (Score:2, Interesting)
Do you end up with a soggy mess all over your table?
Re:and what happens after 40 minutes? (Score:5, Informative)
Lasts to 8 hours according to their website
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If it lasts more than 4 hours, you should contact a doctor.
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I always wondered about that .. wouldn't a hooker be more appropriate?
Re: and what happens after 40 minutes? (Score:2)
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That's great.
Imagine this scenario. You pour a cup of coffee. You drink about half of it before getting called to a meeting. By the time the meeting is over so's your work day, so you grab your jacket and go home. Next morning you arrive to find your desk covered in cold half-starched coffee from the day before. Compare this to today where you find your mug where you left it with gross day-old coffee in it so you need to go wash it.
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I don't think this is for use on "desks".
On "desks" you're supposed to be using something ceramic and reusable.
Re: and what happens after 40 minutes? (Score:2)
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Yes, I'd stop using cups that break down after a few hours to avoid it happening again.
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Except the purpose of a normal cup is to stay intact. The purpose of these is to break down after a few hours. Try again.
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I am often amazed to encounter people who never get distracted, forget things, make mistakes, or otherwise do something imperfect.
What's your trick to accomplish this?
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I am often amazed to encounter people who never get distracted, forget things, make mistakes, or otherwise do something imperfect.
What's your trick to accomplish this?
Focusyn [youtube.com].
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What's your trick to accomplish this?
My trick is to put a big coffee-infused biscuit in front of me.
How could I possibly get distracted from that?
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I get distracted all the time. That's why I learned to quickly drink coffee. I don't know when I'll be back at my desk so I don't want the coffee to get cold.
Have you burnt your house down yet because you left your food on the stove? No? Well you can apply that skill there to a coffee cup.
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I don't think your imaginary usage environment matches their usage environment.
This is for use in places like starbucks where people don't leave coffee to go cold for hours.
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You'd better not let your drink sit too long!
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When you eat it, it makes a soggy mess in the toilet (if you make it there in time).
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My guess is that:
a) It will not last 40 minutes because many companies serve tea and coffee flesh-burning hot.
b) since it contains sugar, it will interfere with the taste and make diabetic use unviable.
This is a good try but I'd suggest a more practical solution/use case is single-use containers like the Styrofoam or plastic that many restaurants had to change to during the pandemic. Because these containers aren't served scalding hot, and only need to be thick enough to last maybe an hour on a take-out tri
Keeping it clean (Score:5, Insightful)
So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through, set it in the cup holder, take it to the (home) office, set it on the car while I unlock my door, then take it to my desk where it sits for an hour or so until I'm done drinking it. My hands that hold this cup have been touching the steering wheel, door knobs, car keys, and who knows what else, in between holding this cup. And after all that, I'm supposed to eat the cup? Hmmm...
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So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through, set it in the cup holder, take it to the (home) office, set it on the car while I unlock my door, then take it to my desk where it sits for an hour or so until I'm done drinking it. My hands that hold this cup have been touching the steering wheel, door knobs, car keys, and who knows what else, in between holding this cup. And after all that, I'm supposed to eat the cup? Hmmm...
It might take sense to cover the edible cup with a disposal plastic cup you can fondle all day.
I too have no idea where my hands have been all day.
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Beer has stubbie-holders.
Teapots have tea-cosies.
Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
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Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
Introducing... the Cup Condom.
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Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
We have them already, it's called a "cup".
What is the point of the edible cup if I need to put it in another cup?
I haven't heard of a "stubbie holder" before but a quick search of the web tells me this is what I've known as a "koozie". A koozie isn't just for beer though, it seems to be a general term for any beverage that comes in a bottle, can, or similar container. The local coffee shops offer disposable koozies for their cups to make it more comfortable to hold the thin paper cups with boiling hot liq
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So this initiative about sanitation but also about reducing landfill and saving a tree. I can't say I'd be eating this but at least it should be biodegradable in one's compost heap on t
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Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
We have them already, it's called a "cup".
But if you call it a cup you are locked into a low end commodity market. You need to call it, position it, as something else so you can charge more for it.
What is the point of the edible cup if I need to put it in another cup?
A snack after a coffee.
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Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
At that point, you might as well just make the washable accessory water-tight and then you can leave the edible cup out altogether and just use the re-usable cup you just re-invented.
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Surely someone can come up with a washable accessory that sheathes one's edible cup?
Make sure it compatible with those holders in the cars
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It might take sense to cover the edible cup with a disposal plastic cup you can fondle all day.
I too have no idea where my hands have been all day.
It might make even more sense to not use these in drive-throughs. Use them in places where people sit down.
PS: Not every country is full of people who live and eat in their cars.
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How hard is it to hold your breath from when you leave you living space until you get back home, since you might breath in someone other person'
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Actually, I do wash my hands. And no, I don't set that gooey, delicious doughnut on the roof of my car, or in a cupholder. It is transported in a bag or a box, protecting it from picking up random bits of dirt and scum from everything it touches.
There are extremes when it comes to hygiene. Holding your breath would be such an extreme. Washing your hands before picking up food, is not.
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And after all that, I'm supposed to eat the cup? Hmmm...
Yes. That’s just natures pepper.
Re:Keeping it clean (Score:5, Funny)
So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through, set it in the cup holder, take it to the (home) office, set it on the car while I unlock my door, then take it to my desk where it sits for an hour or so until I'm done drinking it. My hands that hold this cup have been touching the steering wheel, door knobs, car keys, and who knows what else, in between holding this cup. And after all that, I'm supposed to eat the cup? Hmmm...
What if all those other things were edible too?
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So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through, set it in the cup holder, take it to the (home) office, set it on the car while I unlock my door, then take it to my desk where it sits for an hour or so until I'm done drinking it.
I don't think your imaginary-usage scenario matches the scenario where people are actually using these.
Me? I think it will fail because I want my biscuits WITH my coffee, not after it.
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I don't think your imaginary-usage scenario matches the scenario where people are actually using these.
Help me out here, what scenario better matches what people will actually do with these edible cups? Is that scenario more sanitary?
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Help me out here, what scenario better matches what people will actually do with these edible cups?
That'd be the scenario where people look at the linked article and see they come in a paper sleeve:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]
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It's ok, they'll put the edible one inside a standard to go cup.
I wish I were kidding but we live in a world where they wrap paper straws in plastic.
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And they wrap plastic straws in paper!
Re: Keeping it clean (Score:2)
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I know right!
But...if we were just looking for biodegradable, it wouldn't have to be edible.
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So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through
This problem you are having is peak American.
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My scenario was hypothetical. Normally I brew my own coffee. But Starbucks is a very popular place for a lot of people.
If not for takeout, what scenario does it make sense to use an edible cup? If I'm making my own coffee at home or in the office, I use a permanent, washable mug. There's no waste generated by disposable cups. If you're worried about the environment (and therefore a potential customer for these edible cups) then stop using those disposable cups and switch to ceramic or metal!
Re: Keeping it clean (Score:2, Interesting)
If you keep on i
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Your response is pure flamebait, but for others who might read this thread, I'll reply.
What is the target demographic for edible cups? It's people who currently use disposable cups, right? If you're using a metal or ceramic mug, as you would at home or at the office, what's the point of switching to edible? You're already reusing your mug hundreds or thousands of times, there is no problem with disposable waste.
So what does that leave us with? Where are disposable cups used? They are primarily used for *tak
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So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through
Why do you like shitty coffee? Vacuum thermoses and home coffeemakers both exist. That's the real problem with this invention. It only serves people who have proven they give zero shits about their coffee, you think they care about the environment? They don't even care about the environment inside their mouth.
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When you think about how much take away coffee is sold, that's hardly a design flaw.
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The people it's supposed to be for are not going to want to pay for it. That's not a design flaw, it's a critical fault in the business plan. Unless their plan is to have them mandated and then people make coffee at home instead, I suppose.
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My scenario was hypothetical, I normally brew my own coffee, using a metal mug, which I reuse hundreds of times.
But what would be the point of an edible cup, for somebody like me, who brews in a reusable cup? Zero. Clearly, this product is aimed at replacing disposable cups. And where are disposable cups used? When buying coffee for takeout.
Is there some other scenario where it would make sense to go with edible cups? Do you think these cups will actually be *tasty*? I doubt it!
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So, I pick up my coffee in the drive through, set it in the cup holder, take it to the (home) office, set it on the car while I unlock my door, then take it to my desk where it sits for an hour or so until I'm done drinking it. My hands that hold this cup have been touching the steering wheel, door knobs, car keys, and who knows what else, in between holding this cup. And after all that, I'm supposed to eat the cup? Hmmm...
Not that I'm defending it, but at the ice cream place I got to, cones come with paper sleeves around the part you touch which you have to peel off to finish eating them. They use a spot of sugar for the glue.
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You have a strange way of transporting doughnuts. Personally, when I buy doughnuts, they come in a (paper) bag or box, which protects them from touching unsanitary places like the dashboard or wherever. And (I know this is radical) I do wash my hands before I eat, especially when I pick up my food with my hands.
Do people really dive to places to buy a coffee instead of having coffee machines in their offices?
Apparently you've never heard of Starbucks?
Most people who use their own coffee machine, or the one at the office, are dispensing that coffee into a permanent, reusable mug, not disposable.
The candy man can (Score:2)
Obligatory (Score:2)
I, for one, welcome our new edible coffee cup overlords!
Any coffee cup can be eaten (Score:5, Funny)
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if you're brave enough.
I’ll pass. It.
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When it's edible (Score:2)
Humans aren't the only things that are going to eat it. In order to prevent anything else from eating it, you'd need to put the edible cups into wasteful packaging.
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Humans aren't the only things that are going to eat it. In order to prevent anything else from eating it, you'd need to put the edible cups into wasteful packaging.
Urban vermin already have plenty of food scraps to eat. Even if every disposable cap got replaced next week (they won't) it would make a minimal difference compared to the edible waste already discarded every day in any big city.
Or did you mean the cups would get eaten by rodents in the cafe before use? If there's a rodent problem, those rodents will eat regular cardboard cups anyway, or the packets of sugar, or creamer, or whatever else is in the pantry of a cafe.
Al that being said, I've used (and eaten) t
common sense (Score:4, Insightful)
look, i don't drink coffee or go to coffee shops but if you bring your own cup will they fill it? if not, do they sell reusable cups they will refill - figure they might want to match those stupid sizes they have.
seems a bit easier and you don't have to use up our food supply - 2.7 mil in Australia, have to do the calcs for the planet but not a very sustainable solution ... maybe when they go bk they can ship their cups to a place that needs food.
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I don't know if all cafes are willing to do it. I don't see why they would object.
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A buck a cup??? (Score:2)
That idea's DOA.
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No refills, because the cup will melt. A buck every cup.
And in a similar vein... (Score:2)
...I massively respect the genius who invented edible panties.
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You mean they aren't normally?
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Another excellent use of the "Three R" principle.
Iâ(TM)d take it if offered (Score:2)
How does it affect taste? (Score:2)
I wouldn't want to compromise on the taste of my coffee.
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Just ban 'em (Score:2)
good luck to them (Score:2)
FFS. Just give them a mug. (Score:2)
All this effort because of people (Score:2)
I haven't read every comment, but it's a near certainty no one mentioned the real problem with this effort. People. These folks have now spent time, money, and resources trying to come up with something which is only needed because of the laziness of people.
Apparently it's too difficult for the smartest animal on the planet to put their trash in a bin because of the complexity in doing so. Maybe we need to train humans to be as smart as crows in picking up trash [duckduckgo.com]. Then again, what the crows are doing is th
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I think you're missing a virtue of this idea. Instead of spending the materials and energy on making what is essentially destined to be a piece of garbage (a paper cup) they could instead be expending materials and energy on something that will feed and hopefully be enjoyed by someone.
Obesity (Score:3)
What Westerners need is another hundred calories in their jumbo double-sweet mocha latte.
For the Planet!
I drink my coffee black (Score:2)
Where's the sugar free version? And how do the rest of the ingredients mess with the taste of coffee?
If there only were reusable coffee cups (Score:2)
Like something that can go into a dishwasher.
$0.75 extra charge for not bringing a mug (Score:2)
Carry a small messenger bag. Get a spill proof mug with a lanyard, keep it in the bag. When you're out and want a drink, take out your mug. When you're done, put it away. You'll save money and help the environment.
RDA (Score:2)
What's the RDA for coffee cups?
Will they have to print nutrition information on the side of every cup? Keep them wrapped in plastic before serving? (for food safety).
This seems like the very definition of "processed food", although if it's filled with a 1000 calorie latte sugar bomb, it likely won't be the biggest problem.
All I can say is, edible or not, I'm not eating it.
Anything can be eaten (Score:2)
Once, anyway...
The question is: who really wants to eat their disposable cup? Not many, I don't think...
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even if you don't eat it, at least its biodegradable.
im just waiting for the outrage when some scavenger animal dies of caffeine poisoning.
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Everything's biodegradable given enough time, even protons -- about 10^34 years. :-)
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If they make it actually very tasty, then it's a win win.
ice cream cones are doing the same thing since 1896 or so.
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If they make it actually very tasty, then it's a win win.
ice cream cones are doing the same thing since 1896 or so.
I haven't bought an ice cream cone in some time but I recall them coming in a wax paper wrapping, or at least the person behind the counter handling the cone would use a paper napkin, because doing otherwise would be considered unsanitary.
I don't much see the utility here because I expect the edible cups to come with some kind of covering to keep people from spreading disease as they change hands. If there is no disposable cover then I expect people to just toss out the cup anyway, it's going to be conside
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or at least the person behind the counter handling the cone would use a paper napkin, because doing otherwise would be considered unsanitary.
If people are following food safety regulations then you don't handle food with the hand that handles money. In ice cream shops where multiple people are working, one making the ice cream and the other the coffee / working the till you'll likely just get handed the cone and get a napkin yourself if you need it. Also it's ice cream you will need a napkin because it makes a mess.
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If they make it actually very tasty, then it's a win win.
ice cream cones are doing the same thing since 1896 or so.
Ice cream melts rapidly, meaning the ice cream cone stays in the hand (sometimes with a paper wrapper) and within a few minutes is fully devoured.
An ice cream cone is never stuck in a cup holder or set down on a table or desk for an extended period (maybe several days if you forget about it).
The edible coffee cup is a cool idea for sure, but I don't think it really works.
I'd rather just a 100% biodegradable disposable coffee cup. Hey, if this "edible" coffee cup could hold the coffee several days without le
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I'm not sure I would be eating my coffee cup, unless it has some THC in it?
Just have the THC first, then might just eat your normal paper/plastic cup, or even try chomping down your ceramic mug. Have you not seen the photos of the glazed eyed mumbling zombie THC junkies eating their cups? And the reports from the emergency rooms of the poor glass-eating MaryJane victims?
How you even know you even got chromosomes, kid?
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What do you mean you don't mind polluting the planet? Fuck you, you're an asshole.
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Cup shaped communion wafers to hold wine (Score:2)
Either way, most of these startup ideas are stupid.
Sort of, applications may be stupid but the underlying idea maybe not be. Many folks in startups get an idea in the office or lab but never go out into the real world to talk to people. Those that do will often find their idea is not solving any problem, but they find out about some other problem that they could solve. And a "pivot" occurs. And this is good. This communication with users gets tech pointed in the right direction.
Here is my expected pivot for this technology: Cup shaped communion wafers to
Re: $ 6.50 = Dead on aririval (Score:2)
Not sure where you got $6.50, but the summary says it's $1 Ozzy funbuck, or $0.66 USD