USPTO Petitioned To Cancel Oracle's JavaScript Trademark (infoworld.com) 26
Software company Deno Land has filed a petition with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to cancel Oracle's JavaScript trademark, citing trademark abandonment and fraud. The November 22 filing claims Oracle has not sold JavaScript products or services since acquiring the trademark through its 2009 Sun Microsystems purchase. The petition alleges Oracle committed fraud during its 2019 trademark renewal by submitting Node.js website screenshots without authorization.
The legal action follows a September open letter from JavaScript creator Brendan Eich, Node.js and Deno creator Ryan Dahl, and other prominent JavaScript developers urging Oracle to relinquish the trademark. The letter has garnered over 14,000 signatures.
The legal action follows a September open letter from JavaScript creator Brendan Eich, Node.js and Deno creator Ryan Dahl, and other prominent JavaScript developers urging Oracle to relinquish the trademark. The letter has garnered over 14,000 signatures.
Can't wait for the comments on this one... (Score:1)
Re: Can't wait for the comments on this one... (Score:2)
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an effectively proprietary language
JavaScript and Java are open standards.
The only thing encumbered is the name.
why would you expect to be able to do anything you want with it?
Because you can.
Re: One reason to abandon Java/Javascript altogeth (Score:2)
If you are treating Java and JavaScript as the same thing, then you are either a Scrum Grand Master or if youâ(TM)re a dev, then you need to hand in your dev card.
Oracle can claim ownership of Java branding, but Iâ(TM)d be hard pressed to see it claim ownership of the JavaScript trademark. Mozilla is closer to being the true owner of said trademark, if anyone is.
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This is an odd thing to post on a story about how Oracle owns the JavaScript trademark.
Re: One reason to abandon Java/Javascript altogeth (Score:5, Informative)
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Sun got the trademark for JavaScript when they bought Netscape, and Netscape developed and marketed JavaScript. Not hard pressed at all.
You are misremembering the corporate history.
AOL bought Netscape, and then AOL let Netscape wither and die without selling any of the assets off.https://developers.slashdot.org/story/24/11/26/1312213/uspto-petitioned-to-cancel-oracles-javascript-trademark#
JavaScript != Java (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm confused by this, how the hell did Oracle get the TM for his? Aside from the naming confusion, they are two different languages -- I get that Oracle got the rights to Java when they bought Sun back in the day, but JavaScript was developed by Eich and then it became the EMCAScript standard -- two different beasts. Or is this just some BS moneygrab / marketing shit from Oracle?
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Which also raises the question: Why don't we all just call it ECMAscript? Has the trademarked thing whose source files end in .js diverged from ECMAscript enough to consider them two different things?
Re: JavaScript != Java (Score:2)
How do you pronounce ECMAScript? Eck-ma-script? Sounds icky. E.C.M.A. Script takes too long to say.
It's obvious and easy to pronounce JavaScript. Like it's faster and easier to say Kleenex than facial tissue, or Xerox rather than photocopy machine.
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You pronounce it eczema-script
Re: JavaScript != Java (Score:2)
Because ECMAscript doesnâ(TM)t role off the tongue as easily and is really only known by the people worrying about the standards. Those busy trying to code just think of Javascript, or its typed sibling Typescript.
Re: JavaScript != Java (Score:3)
Re:JavaScript != Java (Score:4, Informative)
the development was a joint venture between netscape and sun, they finally went with "javascript" because it was actually meant to be the glue between java and the browser and since "java" was already a popular it seemed a good marketing idea. worst name choice ever, though, and sun just got to keep the trademark.
https://exploringjs.com/es5/ch... [exploringjs.com]
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Re:JavaScript != Java (Score:4, Interesting)
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They did something with the mark.. Indubitably they must have licensed a Node developer permission to use the mark; As evidenced by them screenshotting Node's website. Licensing another person or company's usage of the mark is still Using the mark.
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Re:JavaScript != Java (Score:4, Informative)
Netscape wanted a scripting language for their browser and they were talking to Sun about using Java. They (Sun and Netscape and the dude they hired to work on it) decided to make something new with syntax vaguely like Java, and call it JavaScript because Java was the hot new thing. Later, Oracle bought Sun and so they own both Java and JavaScript.
There's a reason the standard is called ECMAScript and anybody of significant size with a reference to it in their name is oblique, e.g. Node.js, or the cute interpreter code names the browsers use.
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Oracle - Abandon (Score:3)
These words have NEVER gone together before!!
For reference wikipedia has a nice article detailing all of the corporate acquisitions over the years by Oracle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
My eyes are old enough, but my mind is not strong enough to remember most product still on their sales list that is meaningful except for PeopleSoft ... and that one mostly sticks out because it is the only thing that hasn't really changed. It was bad. It was bought. It was still bad. It makes lots of money though...so it is still active.