Oracle's Ellison Calls for Governments To Unify Data To Feed AI (msn.com) 61
Oracle co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison said governments should consolidate all national data for consumption by AI models, calling this step the "missing link" for them to take full advantage of the technology. From a report: Fragmented sets of data about a population's health, agriculture, infrastructure, procurement and borders should be unified into a single, secure database that can be accessed by AI models, Ellison said in an on-stage interview with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair at the World Government Summit in Dubai.
Countries with rich population data sets, such as the UK and United Arab Emirates, could cut costs and improve public services, particularly health care, with this approach, Ellison said. Upgrading government digital infrastructure could also help identify wastage and fraud, Ellison said. IT systems used by the US government are so primitive that it makes it difficult to identify "vast amounts of fraud," he added, pointing to efforts by Elon Musk's team at the Department of Government Efficiency to weed it out.
Countries with rich population data sets, such as the UK and United Arab Emirates, could cut costs and improve public services, particularly health care, with this approach, Ellison said. Upgrading government digital infrastructure could also help identify wastage and fraud, Ellison said. IT systems used by the US government are so primitive that it makes it difficult to identify "vast amounts of fraud," he added, pointing to efforts by Elon Musk's team at the Department of Government Efficiency to weed it out.
Re: And of course... (Score:4, Interesting)
Just ask the Birmingham council how well does Oracle work for them.
Better title: (Score:5, Informative)
"Privacy Rapist Wants All the Data"
There FTFY.
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The giant EllisonGPT will be renamed "Skynet" soon, just you watch...
AI vs. immigrant (Score:4, Interesting)
When an immigrant takes your job, at least a human family is getting fed. You'll be a bit poorer having to accept a lower wage. But when AI takes your job, unless we fix the economic architecture, the only humans who benefit are the fat ones in the oligopoly. You don't want them getting diabetes.
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Give us your data for free and we will give you back fewer jobs and more control over society by the billionares. Win/win.
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and even the former is something that those same oligarchs are lying to you about.
immigration has an upward effect on both wages and employment for natives.
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Why was this downvoted? It's a documented fact that (all else being equal) immigration is good economically for everyone.
From Benefits of Immigration Outweigh the Costs [bushcenter.org]:
Immigration fuels the economy. When immigrants enter the labor force, they increase the productive capacity of the economy and raise GDP. Their incomes rise, but so do those of natives. It’s a phenomenon dubbed the “immigration surplus,” and while a small share of additional GDP accrues to natives — typically 0.2 to 0.4 percent — it still amounts to $36 to $72 billion per year.
And this is not just some crazy left-wing liberal position: the essay I quoted came from the George W. Bush Institute!
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You know that's YOUR party's platform, right?
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When an immigrant takes your job, at least a human family is getting fed.
On the other hand, that immigrant Elon is getting rid of jobs -- and probably trolling all the government data for his benefit ...
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They're not going to be making much money, if there aren't enough people with money to buy things. That drives prices down. In the long term, as automation accelerates, it stops making sense to charge money for things. That's the onset of Post-Scarcity. We'll have a couple of difficult years, but on the other side, we have to figure out a whole new economic system.
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They're not going to be making much money, if there aren't enough people with money to buy things. That drives prices down. In the long term, as automation accelerates, it stops making sense to charge money for things. That's the onset of Post-Scarcity. We'll have a couple of difficult years, but on the other side, we have to figure out a whole new economic system.
The billionaires today, the ones making all the actual decisions, don't have to figure out a whole new economic system. Once they have all the money, all the value, they can shrug as they build the walls around their homes to escape the screams of the angry mobs. What do they care if most have nothing?
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They can wall up all they want, but everyone's got to eat. And unless the rich make their own food, someone's got to prepare it for them.
If they can't perfect their robotics in time, I'm sure there will be plenty of poors available that will be happy to take table scraps for being servants. Traditionally, there always are.
There's levels to this grift. (Score:5, Insightful)
For one, if these "AI" systems were as good as all the tech bros are telling us they are, the data shouldn't need to be consolidated. They should just be able to take the data as-is from wherever they can get it and aggregate it however it's needed. For two? NO, asshole. You do *NOT* need all access to all government data just because you're greedy fucking mind can't comprehend that all data in the world doesn't already belong to you. For three? The entire AI thing has been about data aggregation from the start. And this is just one of the pushers coming right out and saying, "All your data are belong to us. Feed me."
Let me, to put a fine point on it, end on this note. Dear Ellison, "Fuck off, cunt."
We Can't Steal Your Data Fast Enough : ( (Score:2)
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Ah.... Let me teach you about encryption, the quantum-proof kind. Come here and sit down. This'll take a minute, but future generations of specifically you (and I) will thank us.
Now we must teach the government, whose data is regularly cracked like an egg, and sucked with a fat straw into the TorToobies.
Takes only a few minutes. Lasts for a long time.
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If you live in the United States, be assured that Elon Musk's army of techbros is busily slurping up what little data hadn't been cracked already. It's done. There's nothing left to protect from the worst actors, because the worst actors are sitting at the captain's helm steering the ship right into the shoreline.
Musk's team of a handful of teenagers (Score:1)
"...pointing to efforts by Elon Musk's team at the Department of Government Efficiency to weed it out."
Ellison thinks we're all stupid. First, "Musk's team" is not there to weed anything out, it's there to loot our national treasures. Second, the lie used to justify this looting is not to weed out anything but to "improve efficiency". Third, just how much of this magic can be performed by a few pimple-faced kids when his entire company, and many more like it, has been unable to achieve this ever?
Ellison
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"...pointing to efforts by Elon Musk's team at the Department of Government Efficiency to weed it out."
Ellison thinks we're all stupid. First, "Musk's team" is not there to weed anything out, it's there to loot our national treasures. Second, the lie used to justify this looting is not to weed out anything but to "improve efficiency". Third, just how much of this magic can be performed by a few pimple-faced kids when his entire company, and many more like it, has been unable to achieve this ever?
Ellison should just say that our taxpayer money should be made available to enrich him personally and to do the hard work that he can't do.
Also, isn't this "communism"? Whatever happened to private industry being the answer to challenges such as this? No universal health care, no stability in retirement, but free resources for Oracle, right?
This isn't communism. It's socialism for the elite, fuck you for the rest. It's capitalism's end-goal, if an end-goal can exist for an 'ism.' Make government money and resources completely available and beholden to the capitalist owners without oversight. We're seeing it happen in the United States, and Ellison's out there advocating that other countries do the same so that he can get a piece of that fat government pie before Musk sucks it all up for himself.
Years ago I wrote a short story synopsis for an i
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Years ago I wrote a short story synopsis for an idea of the world eventually crumbling into a huge war fought not between countries, but between uber-elite ultra-wealthy folks.
Neal Stephenson, is that you?
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Years ago I wrote a short story synopsis for an idea of the world eventually crumbling into a huge war fought not between countries, but between uber-elite ultra-wealthy folks.
Neal Stephenson, is that you?
I must be the only nerd left that hasn't read Stephenson's stuff. It's been on my queue for a long time, but something else always jumps in front of it.
He's just upset (Score:4, Insightful)
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He's upset because Elon has his hands on all that delicious government data already
Well, more Hyenas were bound to be drawn to the stink of the carcass.
And there it is (Score:2)
I knew that Stargate announcement was a scam. Oh it's going to be used for cancer cures they said! Just an excuse to get their hands on everyone's private date.
You guys spent years screaming about scary George Soros and here we have Elmo who gets cheered.
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The guy who spent a lot of money and orders Trump around.
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"Help us help you" (Score:2)
Sure centralize the data so hackers can easily steal all if it instead of having to go around and steal it department by department.
Who's "them"? (Score:2)
Oracle co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison said governments should consolidate all national data for consumption by AI models, calling this step the "missing link" for them to take full advantage of the technology.
Pretty sure Larry is talking about Oracle and the other corporate overlords and not the governments and people they serve. Personally, I think making it easier for AI to access and consume all our data is a bad idea. To paraphrase Malory Archer, "Do you want Skynet? Because that's how you get Skynet." Or, at least, the total collapse of (or any semblance of) data security, control and privacy.
FUCK OFF ELLISON (Score:1)
Any time Larry Ellison (or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos) urges governments to do something, you can bet it's all about benefitting them, not anyone else.
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Any time Larry Ellison (or Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos) urges governments to do something, you can bet it's all about benefitting them, not anyone else.
Or Zuckerberg.
Westworld plot (Score:3)
This is literally the plot for the later season of Westworld. https://westworld.fandom.com/w... [fandom.com]
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This is literally the plot for the later season of Westworld. https://westworld.fandom.com/w... [fandom.com]
Where do you think these cunts got the idea of creating computer god? Fiction. Ain't a one of them smart enough to dream it up themselves. Funny how it all accelerated right after that season aired. While most of us were thinking it was a fun, if reiterative, warning of what could be, these fuckers were drooling at the prospect and lining up GPU purchases to try to make it happen.
Elon Already Is (Score:2)
Elon is already doing it. Why do you think he wanted access to all that sweet government data on everybody? To train his AI which is woefully behind the rest. He's most certainly feeding that all in to his pockets.
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Totally. He'll have access to data about payments and other info on all of his competition. Out bid them, blackmail them, whatever he likes.
And normally everyone in the White House (other than the VP and president) is required to be held to an ethics requirement. He's gotten a waiver, which means he's allowed to profit from the information he gains through his access. He's being given a free pass on everything.
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Department of Grifting Eggheads (Score:3)
Gotta hand it to uncle Larry. I couldn't think of a more pointless and dangerous waste of time and money than this.
Welfare queens (Score:2)
"The government should clean my data sets for me and make them easily consumable by my for-profit institution."
Also shitbag greedheads:
The government shouldn't be assisting anyone with economic security.
Also shitbag greedheads:
We're cutting out all the grift. https://abcnews.go.com/drug-ad... [go.com]
Wants it for mass surveillance. (Score:2)
"Ellison said AI would be used in the future to constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems, like security cameras, police body cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dashboard cameras.
"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's go
Remember (Score:4, Interesting)
Recall that Ellison is the dumbass that said the quiet part out loud:
Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior' [businessinsider.com]
Apparently he'd like to achieve this at low cost by making government groom the data for him.
Yes, give them all our data for free.. (Score:2)
Do something that benefits me personally (Score:2)
And don't make me pay for it.
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Dump it all into the Metaverse. At least that way we know it'll be safe from everyone since no one would ever look there.
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Or give it to google. They'll safely delete it in a week when they get bored with it.
Give us your data for free (Score:2)
Give us your data for free, so we can charge you to access it in what we call new and interesting ways.
Proving again that ORACLE is an acronym (Score:1)
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Speaking of Elon (Score:1)
In the name of rooting out corruption and inefficiency but in reality acting against political and ideological competitors and opponents, Elon and Trump are actually doing the opposite of what Ellison is asking for. Data is being taken offline and made inaccessible. This is what totalitarian governments do. Xi Jinping had his campaign against "corruption," and Elon and Trump are doing the same.
Of course, what Larry is really asking for is government to facilitate the gathering of data to train AI models.
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In the name of rooting out corruption and inefficiency but in reality acting against political and ideological competitors and opponents, Elon and Trump are actually doing the opposite of what Ellison is asking for. Data is being taken offline and made inaccessible. This is what totalitarian governments do. Xi Jinping had his campaign against "corruption," and Elon and Trump are doing the same.
Of course, what Larry is really asking for is government to facilitate the gathering of data to train AI models. He wants the government to pay for and subsidize this data gathering. Furthermore, he wants the government to provide legal cover to squash the intellectual property and privacy challenges that are sure to arise.
Musk is only blocking access to the data for the people that need it to do their jobs. Rest assured, it's all being "safely backed up" to his data aggregation routines, to train his AI assets. No way he's letting all that juicy data just poof out of existence. There's money to be made there. Data is profit.
Great idea if... (Score:2)
...the data is freely available to all and Oracle isn't allowed anywhere near it
Do you want Skynet? (Score:2)
No Way Whoracle! (Score:2)
Corporate Welfare (Score:2)
duh, the solution is right there in front of you (Score:2)
Why not train an AI to figure out how consolidate the data?!? Isn't that the entire point of it?
Let's start with Ellison's data? (Score:2)
Should we ask if we can use data on him, his family and friends as a test data set?